Shadmans thoughts

John Kerry is a outright Jack ass for his comments on the war. John lost a election and does not need to make comment on the war. He LOST and making light of making fun of the troops he has lost hope in my life. John Kerry is a anti war Jerk and he is not a good person to lead this land. Michel J Fox ought to stop his campaign on stem cells. I have some proof the rats they tried to use and plant cells got tumors. It is silly to harm human life when if is not morally right. If we grow cells from a grown man then you get more results. I do not think it is right to make a egg and sperm and freeze them because that is not what the Maker said to do. So I am not for storing embryos much less killing them for something that might cure something when I think we can do it by making stem cells out of the person and implant them. No stem cell research on embroils and stop freezing them.
So I got the pro life thing on who to vote for. Life is the most important thing to vote on and if you want to kill babies then your not a good person and your a killer. I vote alone on this so I am voting straight Republican and I am not crossing for anyone in the demo party because they want to keep it leagel to vote for higher tax and that will not solve anything. If your prochioce you killed your retirement and we ought not to give you anything for your retirement because you killed a generation that could of helped you retire.

I got a problem with the people who say they love Jesus and do not help the poor. Jesus is all about helping the poor and he said this
Mattew 24 31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’
41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’
44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”1
So if you want to say the social gospel is not ok then you are mocking this word from Jesus and you are not doing what he demands. If you do not feed the poor your not a church that is ok . If you did not feed the poor you did not feed Jesus.
People try to use this thing called dispensation and that is a excuse to not feed the poor. And when asked if they send folks to the food shelf they say the bapist and they do not practice this and that so they do not work with people
new evangelicalism it is sick and wrong
Some of the symptoms of the New Evangelical disease are:
1. Placing love above sound doctrine as a basis for Christian fellowship.
There can be no true love without sound doctrine (l Jn. 5:2-3; Rom. 16:17; Jn. 14:21).
No Love is because of Jesus and his grace to you. I think your missing the mark by telling not to love.
2. Re- thinking, re-investigating, and keeping an "open mind" regarding the fundamentals of the Faith, including the inerrancy and inspiration of the Holy Scriptures.
Faith in the Word of God and the Son of God are matters of God's revelation, not man's investigation (2 Tim. 2:15;1 Cor. 2:14).
the bible is the word and the rejection of that means your not saved.
3. Practicing "infiltration" instead of Biblical "separation" with respect to compromised churches and apostate denominations.
It is always God's will for the faithful believer to withdraw from any fellowship that has departed from sound doctrine and practice (2 Thess. 3:6, 14; Rom. 16:17; 2 Cor. 6:14-18).
This is not right, you are to work together to make certain the poor get fed. Church's that do this are not right. In Saint cloud Grace Baptist and Northland baptist teach not to work with people to feed the poor. People this is wrong and I am not going to not hold my fire on this trash and if you have a problem with this CHANGE IT. We need to work with other churches to do the work of Jesus and just because one church might not agree that gives the others like Granite City to not help. Baptists are part of the body and they need to WORK WIT HTHE WHOLE BODY OR TELL THE TRUTH YOUR NOT IN THE BODY AND THE CHURCHES ARE CULTS.
4. Twisting the Scriptures in an effort to accommodate so-called "scientific" discovery and theory, including every form of evolution.
If man knows more than his Creator, then God is dead! (Gen. 1:1; Jn. 1:1-3;1 Cor. 1.20).
right on
5. Seeking to develop lines of thought and arguments which would "Christianize" pagan ideas and systems founded upon unbelief (glorification of psychology, psychiatry, astrology, etc. ) .
Nothing is better for modern man than the absolute truth of God 's Word (Col. 3:16; 1 Tim. 6:20; 2 Tim. 3:16-17; Jn. 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13).
I think this is a slam on people of mental illness. SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE THAT DO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO TAKE GODS MEDS. SHAME ON THE BAPTIST Church's THAT DO NOT ALLOW FOLKS TO GET THE HELP THEY NEED AND SHAME ON YOU OBRIEN FOR SAYING THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FORGIVE PEOPLE. USE MEDS IF NEEDED.
6. Preaching only a so-called "positive message," as often expressed by the statement, "God called me to win souls, not to criticize others."
God calls every believer to win souls, but He also commands every believer to contend earnestly for the Faith (Jude 3-4; Acts 20:24-31).
7. Finding more fellowship with disobedient brethren and even outright apostates than with Bible-believing fundamentalists.
This suits the devil just fine for it con fuses the battle lines (Eph. 5:11; 1 Cor15:33).
8. Making the church more and more an instrument of social change by programs of humanitarian concern, rather than emphasizing our responsibility to the Great Commission and the eternal welfare of man.
Cooperation with apostates usually starts with united welfare, mission, or evangelistic programs. God has given specific instructions regarding the believer's responsibility to identify and to separate from all such false teachers (2 Cor. 6:14-18; 2 Pet. 2:1-3; 2 Jn. 10-11).
GET OUT AND FEED THE POOR BAPTISTS. GET A FOOD SHELF NORTHLAND AND GRACE BAPTIST AND FIGHT THE SALVATION ARMY FOR THE POOR. GET A SHELTER BUILT PASTOR CAMBELL AND LETS GET THE POOR SAVED AND WAMRED.
New Evangelicalism is wrong because it is unscriptural and must, therefore, be guarded against on every hand. This obligation is in no way modified because some highly respected Christian leaders embrace and promote its dangerous strategies today. Don't you be deceived by it!
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

If the bible is truth were not true why then would someone damn the whole human race?
If the bible is fake then I think it is the stupidest book ever. I mean who is going to write a book that basicly tells you that your going to hell if you do not think it is right. It would not be a good book because the bible demands you give all of you to a unseen power. And if not then your a bad person. But I know the bible is true and the bible is the words of the maker of mankind and if you fail to follow it you are going to hell. It is true and God alone wrote in and inspired it and Praise the Lord for it.
I want to start the book of John. I am going to be working in it for a long time. I think that I want to always be going in a book of the bible here on my blog because I need the bible and the truth. Really I am not preaching the bible to you as much is I am reflecting the study for me. So If I am not right I am asking you to help me in that. I want to say I am using the Macarthur notes and other things to aid this and if you have good things for me to consider I am hoping you to write them at my site. I want to begin with the living bibles paraphrase. I liked the way it reads sometime better.
John 1 1-2Before anything else existed, there was Christ,£ with God. He has always been alive and is himself God. 3He created everything there is—nothing exists that he didn’t make. 4Eternal life is in him, and this life gives light to all mankind. 5His life is the light that shines through the darkness—and the darkness can never extinguish it.
This book is a book about the Lord Jesus and the salvation that he gave to us. In this passage we are setting up the book and intro is a key thing. I want to talk tonight on the fact Jesus has always existed and then next time I want to hit how cults use this verse to say what it does not say. I like lists so I want to go over things Jesus is in this book and God is in other books of the bible.
1 Jesus is the I am in John. God said I am who I am in the story in exdous and the truth is the people knew I am means Jesus was saying he was God.
2 Jesus is called the shepred. God is called a shapred in the 23 psalm. Jesus is the Judge. He is going to decide your fate. Jesus is the Holy One. Jesus is as Holy as God and is to be worshiped and praised. Jesus is the First and the Last. Jesus is the Light of the world. Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. Jesus is the redeemer of your soul.
3 Jesus has God like things that only God has. Jesus is eternal. He is forever and has been and will always be. Jesus is all knowing. He knows everything about everyone and that includes all of your life and every act of it PS 139. Jesus is everywhere at all times. JESUS has all the power and can do as he wishes. Jesus power is unlimited. Jesus is never going to change ever. Who he is one billion years ago is who he will be in one billion years. All of the things I listed are only what God has,
4 Jesus does the work of God. Jesus created all things. Jesus spoke the world into being and in the end will end it. Look at 3 in top Jesus created all things. Nothing you see is here by chance Jesus made it all. If you are living in a ho,e it did not just blow up and there it was it takes a builder and a designer. All evolution is is lie and the truth is God in Jesus made the world. If you are being taught another thing your being lied to. Jesus controls the death of every person and he gives life to all and eternal life to the people that have been made his own. Jesus raises the dead and if you know him that is good and if you do not your not going to like the place you are going to end in. Jesus alone forgives sin. No priest of man has that right. Jesus paid for sin and you are to confess your sin and seek forgiveness only God gives. Churches are to forgive sins Mark! Jesus does. Jesus words stand forever. Love your neighbor is the same as it was when Jesus spoke it and the words and commands of Paul are to apply today.
5 Jesus was worshiped. He is worshiped as God and all the angels worship and adore him and so we ought to. Angels worship him at his birth
6 Jesus is able to take your prayer and he takes care of you. Jesus is always for you and not going to condem you if your saved. Maybe we need to bring all to his attention and allow him to work in your life. Jesus cares for you no matter who you are and he wants to give you blessings. He is the solution to all your mucky yucky self.
We now have hope in Jesus alone

I want you baptist to listen carefully, your fight saying we do not help the poor is a slap in the face of God and not good. I think if you fail to love and serve the poor your going to lose in the end before the Lord and that is not good. The bible said to lend to the poor and if you fail that command that is a sin.
1 John 3:17 But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
So if you do not serve the poor your not saved and the Love of Jesus is not in your life. God said it and if he said it one time in the bible that is a command and we must follow it.
Deut 15:7 “If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother,
So if there is poor they are planted near you so help them.
Prov 14:21 He who despises his neighbor sins; But he who has mercy on the poor, happy is he.
If you help poor people your going to be blessed by the Lord. If you do not then do not say you love Jesus because truth is you do not love Jesus if you hate anyone. You love Jesus as much as you love the scum of your life
Matt 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.
If you want to go to heaven your going to have the attude that all you have is to be given up if he tells you to
Prov 29:7 The righteous considers the cause of the poor, But the wicked does not understand such knowledge.
2 Cor 9:9 As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever.”
Luke 3:11 He answered and said to them, “He who has two tunics, let him give to him who has none; and he who has food, let him do likewise.”
If you eat and your neighbor does not have a job you give to the one and then eat
Deut 15:10 You shall surely give to him, and your heart should not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your works and in all to which you put your hand.
2 Cor 9:7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
Deut 15:10 You shall surely give to him, and your heart should not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your works and in all to which you put your hand.
Ps 41:1 Blessed is he who considers the poor; The Lord will deliver him in time of trouble.
If your going in a hard time maybe you ought to give your time and money away and then God will bless you and help you if you give to him. It means you give to the Lord and the poor in the good and the bad times because that is the way God blessed you. I really think that it is a blessing to give and when you do your storing up your treasure in heaven
Prov 14:21 He who despises his neighbor sins; But he who has mercy on the poor, happy is he.
Note the one might not be saved and the food and blessing you give might mean they will get daved.
Prov 22:9 He who has a generous eye will be blessed, For he gives of his bread to the poor.
Acts 20:35 I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”
Heb 13:16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
Prov 28:27 He who gives to the poor will not lack, But he who hides his eyes will have many curses.
Luke 14:13–14 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind. 14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
Prov 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.
Luke 10:33–35 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’

I want you baptist to listen carefully, your fight saying we do not help the poor is a slap in the face of God and not good. I think if you fail to love and serve the poor your going to lose in the end before the Lord and that is not good. The bible said to lend to the poor and if you fail that command that is a sin.
1 John 3:17 But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?
So if you do not serve the poor your not saved and the Love of Jesus is not in your life. God said it and if he said it one time in the bible that is a command and we must follow it.
Deut 15:7 “If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother,
So if there is poor they are planted near you so help them.
Prov 14:21 He who despises his neighbor sins; But he who has mercy on the poor, happy is he.
If you help poor people your going to be blessed by the Lord. If you do not then do not say you love Jesus because truth is you do not love Jesus if you hate anyone. You love Jesus as much as you love the scum of your life
Matt 19:21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.
If you want to go to heaven your going to have the attude that all you have is to be given up if he tells you to
Prov 29:7 The righteous considers the cause of the poor, But the wicked does not understand such knowledge.
2 Cor 9:9 As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever.”
Luke 3:11 He answered and said to them, “He who has two tunics, let him give to him who has none; and he who has food, let him do likewise.”
If you eat and your neighbor does not have a job you give to the one and then eat
Deut 15:10 You shall surely give to him, and your heart should not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your works and in all to which you put your hand.
2 Cor 9:7 So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.
Deut 15:10 You shall surely give to him, and your heart should not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your works and in all to which you put your hand.
Ps 41:1 Blessed is he who considers the poor; The Lord will deliver him in time of trouble.
If your going in a hard time maybe you ought to give your time and money away and then God will bless you and help you if you give to him. It means you give to the Lord and the poor in the good and the bad times because that is the way God blessed you. I really think that it is a blessing to give and when you do your storing up your treasure in heaven
Prov 14:21 He who despises his neighbor sins; But he who has mercy on the poor, happy is he.
Note the one might not be saved and the food and blessing you give might mean they will get daved.
Prov 22:9 He who has a generous eye will be blessed, For he gives of his bread to the poor.
Acts 20:35 I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”
Heb 13:16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.
Prov 28:27 He who gives to the poor will not lack, But he who hides his eyes will have many curses.
Luke 14:13–14 But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind. 14 And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
Prov 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty.
Luke 10:33–35 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him. 35 On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’

I want to do a oldie from my blog before but before that I have things I want to talk on. We have 2 weeks before the election and I frankly want the Demos to lose everything because of the following things. We need to step up and kick in Iraq and any turning is a mistake that might mean that the people that want to kill us and do not mistake the Muslims want the whole world and want to blow us off the map. If we lose there they are going to attack more and kill more people. We do not want to anger the Lord and make homos ok. We want to end abortions of all kinds. If we fail God is going to end this nation in the next 4 years and everyone who values freedom is going to lose. The bible is clear that if the nation has homos ok the nation goes and God is going to bring more terror in storms and take away the peoples rights. In the 30s a man said he wanted to make a nation Nazi. Now we have a new thing called Islam and they want to kill you and take this land and convert every person to their ways. So if you want gays and Mauer to get there way I promise you more terror, more storms like Katrina and more freedoms taken from us to preach the bible and for that matter any faith. We fight in a war that if we lose this nation goes to the the terroists. We need to tap phones and anything any Islamic might do. We need to outlaw them and shut this faith down and if we do not God is going to show give us the things we want and then since they are not right he is going to end this land and this land will be brought to Muslim rule and friends you DO NOT WANT THAT.
God is powerful. He is so powerful that he speaks and the world was made. God can and does for his power whatever he wants and he can because the power of God is nothing to mess with. Jesus rose from the dead. That is power is it not? Power is a good thing to not want to have. Power is a thing I do not want because it has with it things like resoneabilty and you got to know all things. God has all the power to rule all things. So here are things that God has power over. God controls nature and storms. God runs all things like rain and the sun. God has power over nations. God decides who runs all nations and there is nobody in power the Lord has not allowed being there. I think all bosses and mayors have been given their power from the Lord. I know the leaders are not all good but God decides who is there. It is a hard concept but it is in the bible. Here is the simple truth God is all-powerful. Here is the word on this. Jer 32 17 ‘Ah, Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and outstretched arm. There is nothing too hard for You. 18 You show lovingkindness to thousands, and repay the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them—the Great, the Mighty God, whose name is the Lord of hosts.[1]What is to hard for the Lord? Nothing is. God is the Great and mighty God. Ps 7 He rules by His power forever;His eyes observe the nations;Do not let the rebellious exalt themselves.[2]God uses his power to rule nations. Jesus is also the very God and has power to do anything. Jesus displayed Gods power many times. He did this be working miracles. Jesus healed all things when he was on earth. Jesus healed blind, deaf and rose the dead. Also Jesus forgave sins. Look at this passage…Luke 6 16 So He Himself often withdrew into the wilderness and prayed.17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them. 18 Then behold, men brought on a bed a man who was paralyzed, whom they sought to bring in and lay before Him. 19 And when they could not find how they might bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the housetop and let him down with his bed through the tiling into the midst before Jesus.20 When He saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.”21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? 23 Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? 24 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”25 Immediately he rose up before them, took up what he had been lying on, and departed to his own house, glorifying God. 26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God and were filled with fear, saying, “We have seen strange things today!”[3]I think this is a good way to prove my point. Note Jesus does not heal this man first but he made the point he had the power to forgive sins and then he healed this man. This man had faith. Has pals had lowered him to the front where Jesus is teaching and he forgives him and heals him. Jesus shows here he has power to forgive you and heal you. It might not mean I think Jesus is going to heal you and make you rich. That is not the truth. But if you got Jesus you will be healed in heaven. Jesus has the power to give you life forever. It is power to say you have the judgment of mankind. Also here note God gave power to Jesus. Actually Jesus as God does this. Jesus did all the things for the trinity. Jesus is the worker in that he gave his life for us. God gave Jesus all the honor and glory in all things. John 5 . 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. [4]22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth— those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.[5]How do I respond. I sing of the power of God. I also pray and live my life under the power of Jesus. Psalms 68 16 But I will sing of Your power;Yes, I will sing aloud of Your mercy in the morning;For You have been my defenseAnd refuge in the day of my trouble.17 To You, O my Strength, I will sing praises;

There are 2.6 billion people in the world who have never heard the name of Jesus Christ and more than 380 million people could not read the Bible even if they wanted to because there is no translation in their native tongue! We so take for granted our Bibles. When given a Bible in his own language, a man from India held it up over his head and shouted, "Thank you, God, for sending me Your truth today. May I be worthy to read and understand it" (Voices of the Faithful, Beth Moore).
I was on a site and went to many pages and one got into mine while I was working the site and is now a reader. Thank lifejoy and I am glad you came to my page today and I hope tons of others come and make this place a stop on the web. I talked to my sister and she talked for a long time to and that makes me feel so loved. I love my sister and she loves me and to me Cheryl is just the best there is. If I am sad over a gal or anything I think she needs to be in the mix because she is good. Some people in life are just built to love and I think God made Cheryl to be my sister.
Last night I ended with this passage that might need some work to it to
Job 15 4 “What is man, that he could be pure?
And he who is born of a woman, that he could be righteous?
15 If God puts no trust in His saints,
And the heavens are not pure in His sight,
16 How much less man, who is abominable and filthy,
Who drinks iniquity like water!1
This sits in context in a part of Job where one is trying to get Job to get right with God. Instead of doing a pound of work I am going to say this and place some bible notes and move on. We have seen the sin of man that has been shown in other passages. So I think we can take the sinfulness of man out of the passage but I am not going to just build this into one place of this man is a sinner just from here. My pastor (who can say things to change my thinking because he is my leader in the things of God and I need to respect him) said this. He said in context you cannot take a bible passage out and build theology and I agree with that and in bible study we cannot take anything out of context. Without really giving the work it needs I want to note what 2 study bibles say on it and move on.
Macarthur study bible note
15:14–16 A strong statement with regard to the sinfulness of man (cf. Rom. 3:23), that attacked Job’s claim to righteousness. Verse 15 refers to holy angels who fell and brought impurity into the heavens (cf. Rev. 12:1–4). The truth is accurate, that all men are sinners—but irrelevant in Job’s case, because his suffering was not due to any sin.2
The believers bible note
15:17 These verses are certainly not words of consolation. Eliphaz describes the fate of the wicked (vv. 17-35), perhaps in opposition to Job’s suggestion that the wicked may prosper (cf. 10:3; 12:6), and he sees their fate in the traditional manner (vv. 20-35). This graphic language speaks of the inward suffering (vv. 20-24) and the outward punishment that come upon the wicked.
Ok A few more
Sin, Universal Nature—Though Eliphaz accused Job falsely, he accurately described the universal nature of sin. The Bible writers leave no doubt that all persons are sinners. Each of us has chosen to follow our desires and not trust God’s directions. We would not dare compare ourselves to the heavenly beings, yet even they do not come up to God’s standards. Humans have no basis for pride in moral accomplishment. We thirst for evil, not righteousness, until we experience the new birth (Jn 3). Then we become a new creation, receiving a new heart and spirit (2 Co 5:17).
Tell you all what I want is your thoughts in can I use this passage to prove man is sinful and not good or should I not use it. (and some say I do not like feedback I WANT YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS)
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.

I mean it I am not here to be lead of the topic and all the things people ask about this might not get a answer because I am not going to, I am not open to debating this I am saying what I think is right. Also anyone who does not know the lord might come and see fighting and that is not why I am here. I want to talk about man who has no goodness inside of him again. I am beating this point because until one gets this salvation cannot take place. If one thinks he is good then the Lord cannot have all the glory in his work. Just a clue that I am not mixing salvation into the man until we have a plan and in this the plan is not formed in my thinking at this point of my study. Matter of fact I am sort of mixing the sin and man into one. Hope in man is not there and goodness in man with a sin is not there.
Psalms 16 2 O my soul, you have said to the Lord,
“You are my Lord,
My goodness is nothing apart from You.”1
Note that without the Lord man has no goodness.
Job 2 22 2 “Can a man be profitable to God,
Though he who is wise may be profitable to himself?2
God finds nothing in man that is going to profit man. God made man and when sin entered in Man became nothing for God and matter of fact the bible said with man alone there is no work that can be preformed in order to please God.
Job 7 17 “What is man, that You should exalt him,
That You should set Your heart on him,
18 That You should visit him every morning,
And test him every moment?3
Why does God bother with sinners and set his heart on and man? Ok “because he loves us” and maybe that is true but I do not think that is because we are of of worth. By the way I am hoping that I am taking away your self esteem and worth because I want you to have all your esteem and worth in Jesus alone. I want to stomp out self love and self evaluation because it is not where your goodness lies. If you place and good in you then your going to miss all of what Jesus did for you. I want to make you in time feel so low that all hope in you is gone and then you can go to a God that looks to make God alone worthy of any good because outside of the Lords family there is nothing for a man to hope in because man is one heart beat away from hell forever. To allow your hope to go anywhere that the Lord Jesus is to make this bible I read a sham. And the bible is not a sham.
Psalms 51 5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.4
Here it shows when your born your a sinner from the start. No goodness in your selfs.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

I told Ron I am not going to be answering him and I am not going to, I am talking about the truth of Man and I am saying that within the speer of man Man has nothing that is going to make himself right with a God. I am not ashamed to be called a Calvinist if that is what anyone calls me because me thinking is in the bible. No where in the bible can you get free will. Here is a truth that anything one get in the bible is theory and to my theory is not ok in bible studies. If the bible said I a a dead man in spirit and if it told us that I can choose to find Jesus then ok. But in the doctrine of man as I said there is no hope. Standing on ourselfs and our works God said no works are even accepted. So lets begin to go into the word and prove this
1 Cor 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.1
This is a very key to this man theology. The natural man does not receive the things of God. It means that in the getting right with God one has no way to do it without something God grants. Sin means your dead to anything the Lord wants you to do. It is utter foolishness to think a man can choose for Jesus if he thinks it is foolish. It is folly for man in his sin that fails to obey God. I say you would not want to obey anything God wants because your nature is corrupted and unable to be obey.
I want to hammer another nail into mans coffin and show you this is death of man is the end of the work of man
eph 2 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.2
God made you alive meaning it was his idea. It was not you came to become alive but you were made. In this passage God is working. In this here is man, you walked to the course of the world, you the son of the devil who could do nothing but fulfill your desire for sin and pleasure. And you because of the sin you did. You were the kids of the wrath of God.
1 jn 1 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.3
We are in sin and in sin man is blinded to any truth.
Psalms 14 The fool has said in his heart,“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, (unable to reason for themselfes the goodness of God)
They have done abominable works,
There is none who does good. (not even pick good.)
2 The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
3 They have all turned aside,
They have together become corrupt;
There is none who does good,
No, not one.4
I am trying to make the point that man has no hope within and is unable to do anything to get saved and the hope Jesus offers is outside any work of man including the truth that a man has a choice and can choose Jesus without Jesus enabling the choice. Within man lies no hope. How it gets to man comes in a place to get the to god is not being studied. Man is no hope.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

I want to make us think the doctrine of man. Man was made in the image of God. God called him good. God then placed him in the perfect garden and said that Man was a good thing. But within I think one day God gave a rule and man fell and became totally unable to please God. WE DIED. We as a race fell into a active rebellion toward the God who made us. So we no longer were anything to God. We as matter of fact were taken out of any good God had made and we no longer had Gods blessing. God took his image and said sadly that none of then could be in his place. We at one time had a life of no sin and free will. We not only lost any hope of relation to spending time with God. We lost any relation with God and he became a God who said your sin is going to cost you forever in hell. And the Hell is the right place for any man who sin just one time. If you swear one time your soul is forever in Hell. Man became under the wrath of God. We became to the point where we could not choose any good things and all of our good became like trash before the might holy God. Our hope is none. We became so full of sin we are unable to choose good or God and our lives could not be redeemed. Man in sin is a hopeless case and any recovery from sin is impossible. We could do nothing right to serve a punishment God inflicts and it is all our single fault. So Gods wrath is totally fair and he is Just to send us to hell. Any Hope? Nope. Not in the sinners life or heart.
But I know you all are going to say I could of talked about us choosing Jesus but I think man does not in this life have the abilty to choose because I think sin is so serious that we are in the state we are in have no reason to choose, remember the truth is we can do nothing and we are hopeless. It is grim and because in man there is no hope I am not going to allow myself to grant any. God has declared you to be unable to work in anyway to come back to himself, God is so holy all man can do is sin in the eyes of God.
Only the Sinner-Josh Bales
Verse 1:Only the sinner, only the weak
Only the man who lies and steals and cheats
Only the woman who runs around
Only the child with the selfish mouth
Only prostitutes and murderers and crooked businessmen
Only those who have no alibi
Only those who cannot hide their sin
Chorus: Only the dirty and never the clean
Only the beggar man and never the king
Only the messed up
Only the sinner Jesus saves
Verse 2: Never the righteous, never the good
Never the man who does all the things he should
Never the rich, never the strong
Never the woman who never breaks a law
Never the wealthy, never the wise
Never the man who claims to have some alibi

I do this all the time do now it is your turns to try this. Here is tonights passage so all you that read this blog I want to see what your thoughts are. Keep them on this passage and blog for me tonight. If I think your the best on the passage I will run you on other passage. I want to see your points on this passage.
Hebrews 13 20 Now may the God of peace who brought up our Lord Jesus from the dead, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 21 make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.
Note God brings Jesus back from the dead. Jesus was dead as a doornail and God brings him back from the dead. Jesus was not in a coma or somehow alive Jesus died and then he came back from the dead forever to bring us hope for life with him. So Paul said Jesus is alive. If you do not think your Lord raised from the dead you have no hope whatsoever.
The great shepherd of the sheep Jesus is the great shepherd of his sheep, Look at John 10
John 10 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Jesus said you come to him because he calls you into the door. Jesus is the one that takes care of you.
3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them
7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.
17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”1
Note the Lord is the one that makes you do the good work. God is the one that saved you and he is the one that helps you work for him. If you are saved then go to work for Jesus. Share your faith and tell others to get Jesus and find him to be the truth. God did not save you just to coast into heaven he made works to make you work and if your not working then I ask you are you in the faith. It is so easy to share Jesus. You are to say what he did for you and how he saved you by his grace and blood.
22 And I appeal to you, brethren, bear with the word of exhortation, for I have written to you in few words. 23 Know that our brother Timothy has been set free, with whom I shall see you if he comes shortly.
Here I think is showing that Paul had a scribe and he is writing this part. Also there is a bit of history in Timothy is out of Jail for proclaiming Jesus. I talked about the truth that more people have been jailed and killed for the crime of shareing Jesus with others. WE even have seen this in our land but the bible said this is going to happen and if it is not I ask if we are doing the right thing. I dare you to tell the people on your block that Jesus is the only way and push it to the point where they know of the hell they are going to if they do not make Jesus their king, then your going to be labeled a bit harshly. I got friends that tell me that I ought not offend people.
. 6 And blessed is he who is not goffended because of Me.”
lets not get offended because of Jesus
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

What is your.........01: Favorite Bible Verse? Psalms 103 the chapter is my life verse02: Favorite Book? Dealing with Ron and Tamera vol 6 03: Favorite Day of the week? None 04: Favorite Song? Hang tough by new kids on the block05: Hair Color? Brown06: Best Friend? Jesus
32: Hobbies? Licking metel in the cold of winter, Masters College, Making things out of sand 33: Are you a people person? yes34: What are you afraid of? Mark O b leading a church to hell 36: Have you been out of the country? Yes and I got back in scary 37: When was the last time you went on vacation? Aug went camping with Kieth Mattews aka fred 38: How many states have you been to? Around 10-15?39: Do you share a room? No 40: Considered a life of crime? I am a life of crime 41: I don't like this question. 42: Can you ride a bike? No 43: Clostrophobic? Yes44: Can you swim? No45: Schizophrenic? Ask my doc 46: Obsessive? With a lot of things47: Compulsive? Sometimes!48: Panic? Not really49: Anxiety? No50: Depressed? Nope 51: good kissed? Yes 52: Obsessed with Hate? yes53: Have bad dreams? Yeah54: Ever TRY to "Wake yourselp up" when your dreaming? I don't recall.
55: If you could be anywhere, where would you be?At Masters college doing a paper on the great NKJV56: What would you be doing? Having my feet done 57: Do you hate anyone? All greenbay players and I do dislike people who lied to me Chris B 58: What are you listening to? All the music I am able to 59: What's the last movie you watched? Tommy boy 61: Do you have a favorite animal? Mean lions ~~~~
89: Indoors or Outside?: outside 90: With Friends or Alone? Mostly alone, but I like time with friends too.91: Reading or Writing: writeing 92: Basketball or Baseball: baseball 93: Walking or Running?: Walking94: In person or Instant Messenger?: person 95: Left or Right handed?:left 96: TV Shows or Movies?: shows 97: Britney or Christina?: R ebbecca st james Ya 98: Rap or Rock?: rock99: Day or Night?: Night100. What do people call you?: 'late
75: Place: Rons car going to church 76: Food: prime rib 77: Fave drink: shadman (cherry dew on the rocks)78: Color: GREEN 79: Shoes or Sandals: Shoes80: Candy: NO LIKE FOOD 81: Thought: DO NOT GET ON A BUS THAT IS GOING TO TAKE YOU WHERE YOU DO NOT CARE TO GO 82: Movie: CON AIR 83: Fruit: APPLE 84: Vegetables: SALAD
62: Current Clothes: SWEAT SHIRT AND PANTS 63: Current Mood: BAD 64: Current Taste:OLD STALE BREAD 65: Current Hair: SHAGGY66: Current Annoyance: dry eyes and itchy throat67: Current Smell: A candle68: Current thing I should to be doing: CLEANING 69: Current Desktop Picture: REBECCA AT JAMES 70: Current Favorite Singing Group: PURE HEART 71: Current Book: PROMICE UNFILLED 72: Current DVD In Player: SIMPONS SEASON 7 73: Current Refreshment: nothing, but I AM really thirsty!74: Current Age: 34
20: Go to school? YES 21: Have a crush? YES 22: Color your hair? YES 24: Have Piercings? NO25: Have a boyfriend? YES I AM GAY .26: Floss daily? Nope27: Have a best bud? BEN AND RON 28: Ever get off this computer? NOPE 29: Ever take a bath? NO 30: Hablas espanol? a little bit31: Do you have a job? DISHWASHER ~~~~

Ok you people we need you all to get out and campaign for the good people in races all over this land. I do not want to see the Dumacrats win and take this land over. I am not for Gay marriage I am for no abortions and no funding of it in any way whatsoever. I want to see the government shrink and pass the north star rail line. We need to teach the truth about God and the bible in schools and ban all forms of evolution, expand the cuts on taxes, protect Social Security and allow some of it to be private pay ins so people can invest more into the Roth and have their cash in their name. We need to take the government out of the the child rearing game and make the roads safer and bused more all over this area. We need to stay in Iraq and hold a draft and get more people fighting the war and make plans to take Korea and Iran and we need to do that now. We need to fight for freedom and end the Muslims hold on all lands that do not have good Christian laws. We need a law that makes all medical decisions the right of a parent and we need to stop all planned parenthoods in all states and make Mom and Dad make the school choice for kids. We need to end no child left behind right away and stop spending your money on the people who are druggies and have aids because of the sexual choices made. We can and must stop aids and the way we do is is make it bad for sex outside of marriage and shame the people who do that. We need to require all hospitals and doctors to take a 50 percent pay cut right now and get the cost of health care to a point where the people can freely choose what they want in care.
Bigzy from Posted: Oct. 13, at 11:17 AMMaryland School Sued for Refusing to Let Girl Read Bible [Excerpts]
(CNSNews.com) - A conservative civil liberties group has filed suit against a school in Greenbelt, Md., for violating the constitutional rights of a seventh-grader who was allegedly threatened with discipline for reading her Bible in school.
The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland against Dwight D. Eisenhower Middle School. Eighth grade Vice Principal Jeannette Rainey and Principal Charoscar Coleman are among the defendants in the suit.
According to the student's mother, Maryanne Mangum, Amber was reading her Bible after finishing her lunch when Rainey gave her a "verbal warning" to put the Bible away.
Amber was told she "was not allowed to read it, and if it happened again," Amber would be punished, her mother said. "She didn't take the Bible back to school."
The school district's policy, along with the guidelines under the U.S. Department of Education's 2003 No Child Left Behind Act, gives students the right to read Bibles or other religious scriptures during lunch hour, recess or other non-instructional times.
"NCLBA, which is federal law that came in under the Bush administration, actually has this provision stating that students have a right to read their Bibles or other religious scriptures during the school day. It provides for that. It says also that you can actually get your federal funding taken away if you violate the NCLBA," [John W. Whitehead, president and founder of the Rutherford Institute] explained.
But Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists, said most of the time, "right-wing groups" that file lawsuits "exaggerate what happened in school, and that is usually brought out later in the case."
"What probably happened is this kid, I'll bet you, was being disruptive. I bet this kid was proselytizing, was preaching, doing something that was annoying other kids and was told to stop. Kids don't normally want to read the Bible at lunch time-I don't care who they are. It's just not something kids want to do," said Johnson.
[Contrary to American Atheists president Ellen Johnson, there certainly are kids who do want to read the Bible. While American Atheists no doubt make "liberty" a key point in their public presentations, they have no problem denying others their legal rights.]
(Mulhern, CNSNews.com Correspondent, 10/04/06).

We need to get back to the reason I started this and it was not to make stupid fights,. It was to have a place to share the Lord and to make his word famous. I am not getting into the bible and I want to get back into the bible. For the people wondering I work at a place that serves achol and food to. I am at a bar and I am also washing the dishes. I know I am also been cut from some places and that is sad but I am going to where I am going to be good and nice. Please forgive me.
Heb 13 10 We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come. 15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. 16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.1
This is not easy to write on because it is a hard passage. The Jews are the ones this is written to and maybe the writer is a jew and he is talking about the laws and the truth that Jesus died outside the walls separating from the people. Lets look at this thing on separation and the Christian and that is one I am not to sure on. We are commanded to not be a part of this world and come out from it. In the old God is shown as one that is so holy and not anypart of man. If you see what the Lord had the jews do they were really a weird people. I am not sure if I separate enough or not. Now we can talk about a lot of things people do and see if the saved ought to do them. Like TV. I have one and watch a lot of it. I do not really watch a ton of prime time I watch lots of sports and news. I know some of you do not have a tv and do not watch it. Good for you because God is shown you the will to quit tv. He has not given me the power to.
Let is keep thanking Jesus for the sacrifice for sin he made for us. Our life is to be about thanking and loving Jesus for his day on the cross. We praise Jesus in song and in prayer for dieing on the cross for us and making a way to know God and go and be in heaven with Jesus forever. I am looking forward to that day and I thank Jesus for everything I have in Jesus and heaven. It is his love for me alone that brings me to the cross and to heaven. Jesus ought to be our best friend and brother and we ought to love him and thank him just for all he has done for us. And we need to share all we have. WE NEED TO FEED THE POOR. We need to clothe the naked and we need to share the Love of Jesus BEFORE WE TELL THEM THE GOSPEL. Yes Gospel is what is the bottom line and souls are the passion but is it going to spread when folks have no food. If we get them saved God is going to provide the things they need to. The righteous do not beg for bread.
In all our behavior—in relation to others, to ourselves, and to God—Jesus Christ is our supreme example. If we want to see sustained love, where can we see it better than in Jesus, who, “knowing that His hour had come that He should depart out of this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end” (John 13:1)?
If we would learn sympathy, where better than from our Lord, who wept with Mary and Martha at the tomb of their brother Lazarus (John 11:35)?
If we want to know what sexual purity is like, who can show us better than Jesus, “who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin” (Heb. 4:15)?
If we want to learn satisfaction, who was more content than Jesus, who said, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to accomplish His work” (John 4:34) and, “The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay His head” (Matt. 8:20)?
If it is steadfastness we need to appreciate, who was more steadfast than Jesus as He resisted Satan in the wilderness (Matt. 4:1-10)?
If we want to know how to be separate from the world, we should listen to Jesus’ prayer, “I do not ask Thee to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world” (John 17:15-16).
If we want to see sacrifice, Jesus not only made the perfect sacrifice, He was the perfect sacrifice, giving “Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma” (Eph. 5:2).
If we would learn submission, who has ever submitted to the Father as Jesus did in the garden when He prayed, “Abba! Father! All things are possible for Thee; remove this cup from Me; yet not what I will, but what Thou wilt” (Mark 14:36)?
If we want to know what supplication is, we must listen to Jesus’ great prayer on our behalf that constitutes the entire seventeenth chapter of John.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

It is my goal here to try to call life as I see it. I said last time I work at a bar and I actually do dishes at a place that serves beer. I was then told Jesus condemns me because of it. I took that stuff off the page and I explained why. I see some good solid people do not see the bible as I see it and thery like to attack people or not talk to people because of faith. It is sad when I find out people have rejected cards for things when life hurts. It is sad when people do not love others because they do not get the way they think. It is nutty to cut people down because they work at a place you will not. But that is the state of church in this area and some have just got to be shut down. God must hate the modern church at times and hate the lack of love and the preachers that use the bible in attacks and not in love.
Hebrews 13 7 Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct. 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.1
We are in a place in the bible where we are given some things we ought to do to serve Jesus and be in the faith. I see 3 things we are to do and the first is we need to pay the preacher and the people that rule over you in the faith. We need to look to people that are examples in the faith and be like them. The folks that lead you to faith are people we ought to honor and respect. I think of some of the people in the past who lifes God used to bring me to Jesus. I think of a Man named Bob who I emailed and called when I first got into Jesus and he sends me Macarthur tapes. I spent a week in his home and he just lives for Jesus and serves and helped me with the basic things of the faith. Jesus used him to get me on my feet and still helps me. Pastor Art is another man I look up to because he has a calm life and yet his faith is strong. Right now pray for me that I will find older men to guide my faith in Jesus in Church. I think of Denny a friend of mine who lives his life for Jesus and he does in in a great way. I want to be like men who are strong in Jesus and be in the word and live out my faith. I talk a lot about the females God used in my walk and I have males that have affected me.
Next command is one that talks about not be carried away with the new and strange stuff. False teaching is all over the place. If you hear of a new thing God is doing in the world today get away. God does not not change things in time. If he does a new thing he is going to be backed up in the bible. I do not thing the Charismatic stuff like falling over is a good thing and matter of fact I stay away from people like that. I do not like the new movements in our faith I want a simple faith that is from the bible alone. Good solid faith that urges bible study and proper thinking is where my doctiune is, not anything that is outside of the bible. It is one reason I am going to use the bible in my pages because it is the source of all truth. I have a long statement on what I believe (one in the Macarthur bible which you should get and read from. King James only folk can still get is one volume commentary and still be into mac for 30) I do not accept the creeds like the apostles because they do not express salvation right. If you want my creed email me and you will get a copy of it. And if you ever need to discuss anything on the pages I make email me. I think God thinks proper thinking about his word is the word and not in a creed. My creed is the bible and the bible is to be trusted above everything and everyone. It means you stick to the basics of the bible until you get to a place where you gwet better. I think you need to study the bible hard and keep at it until you get it right. I think every Christian ought to get a bible software packet and know how to use it and read the bible every day and be a life long student on all things. That is how you get to know Jesus and what it is you live for.
shadman@charter.net
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

So I got to shoot some guns today. I shot a 357 magnum, a 12 gage and a luger. So I am not uneducated about guns and I bet you No funs are going to call me a sinner but I had fun. I am wondering sometime why you readers so not read things like the things about sin that I am writing and how it seems my comments do not agree with me on the basic topics. Like you all think smoking is so serious but Gossip is the same and so is not being humble or failing to Love Jesus with all your heart. So I can find sins you do and I will because you all need to see the grace of God and until you do your not going to get me.

Like Calvinism people want to say I am not one when I am one. I am one that thinks you are saved because God chose to save you and he needs no reason to do it. God did not set out to save all the world and does not give some even the chance to get into heaven. It is a gift to you if your his and nothing else. You did not choose Jesus Jesus in his grace gave you the Life and all his grace. God is not at fault if your not going to heaven it is all your fault because you sinned and you did not get saved. Jesus does not have to save you and if he does not pick you it is just the way it goes. God owes you nothing but he gives you his gifts. If you reject friend God is not at fault but the thing I ask that if you have been granted a gift and you do not take the gift your totally at fault. That is one reason I am not to happy with people that wish I was a baptist or follow the things they want me to.
Heb 13 4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.
Do you want the wrath of God in your life, because the best thing to do it is to have sex outside of marrige. God hates that sin and if you do it Gods wrath is going to be in you. Ok I am being judgemental? How bout a.i.d.s. That is a thing that is going to make our land so different. I got the cure. One partner for life and be married. If you fail to do that your going to die. Simple deal is when you have sex with a partner you have it with EVERY PERSON THEY HAD. Um you want to also go to hell faster, Have gay sex and do not repent. If you sin and do not make it right with you spouse God will not talk or listen to you. Marriage was a gift for us and sex is to be enjoyed in that relationship. Marriage and sex is the blessing of God and is not to made to be dirty or shameful. If your marriage is low making love is a great tool to bond you together. If your a couple and you got the ring sex is a gift to bond you as one. Sex is a way we create more kids. If your not in the bonds of marriage then you cannot raise a kid, you have no commitment and you ought to be scared to have sex. Kids reading this do not experament because it is not good to have a baby. My mother was a kid at 16 when she had me and I do not have a daddy. Men you have made a gal have a kid YOUR TO PAY FOR THAT KID AND YOU OWE THAT KID TO BE IN THEIR LIFES. Forget your dreams men because you have to raise a kid and that means to you all your extra cash goes to the funds for the kid not your life. It means Gals you get to get a job and pay the kids tab and if you give the kid up GIVE THE KID UP AT BIRTH BECAUSE YOUR GOING TO SAVE LOTS OF PAIN. AND PLEASE NO OPEN ADOPTION AND STAY OUT OF THE KIDS LIFE until THEY ARE 30. I was adopted and pain from the time I was is still alive to this day. It is going to RUIN THE KIDS LIFE if you give up on them because when I grew up I did not really like life. I know mistakes happen just let the kids not have to think they are the reason. MARRY YOUR GAL AND DO IT FOR THE KIDS AND MAKE IT WORK..
5 Let your conduct be without covetousness; be content with such things as you have. For He Himself has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” 6 So we may boldly say:
“The Lord is my helper;
I will not fear.
What can man do to me?”1
Ok we are going to do this passage to so we can get to John faster. In the ten command God had said your not to want what your neighbor has. If you want to be like him your going to have problems and not live the Life God gave you. I wanted to be the Bueschers friend but the Lord did not have that in his plan for me and I am no longer in their life. Here we are given the will of God are we not? God said be content and not want junk. If your the Lords kid you got all in him your ever going to need and then some. God is going to be there forever for you and if your not saved your not going to have anything you need. What does one need that has Jesus and all his resources forever. No I do not need the I pod or even a new set of John Macarthur messages. I need the things Jesus gives me both in the spirit and in the physical realm. Bethany Edwards who is a sweet gal once told me that I need one thing and that is Jesus and in him all my needs are solved. Jesus gave me life, Jesus then gave me all the things for life. Jesus inspires me to work hard, Jesus gave me the work and jobs I have and Jesus gave me all the friends. Jesus gives me life forever
So here is the weeks poll, Can you sing hymns well.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

I do think smoking is stupid not sin. I am not saying that the stuff is sin I am saying it does not show your walking with Jesus. Jesus is asking you to get right on the inside and then he is going to clean you up. I use to think you had to clean up to get right with Jesus but y6ou got to allow Jesus to clean you. If you are thinking your sin ought to hold you out of getting saved that is not what is right, what is right is you just come and ask him to come in and he is going to clean you up. Yes if your a Christian for ten years you will be cleaned up and with the help of Jesus sin is going to be less. Jesus expects yopu to live for himself but he is the one that you trust to bring change.
I got to say it is sad that the twins are no longer in the playoffs, but they did not play worth anything. I mean you got to hit the ball and not them hit the ball. If you want to know who I want to win I want the La team to play the Ny Yankees. Maybe the Tigers are going to win it all. I want the LA Dodgers to but I might also want to see them cats win them.
Hebrew 13 Let brotherly love continue. 2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels. 3 Remember the prisoners as if chained with them—those who are mistreated—since you yourselves are in the body also.1
Lets look at the truth of the word tonight. It said here that we are to love our brothers in Jesus forever. Who is your brother? Anyone that has Jesus living in the Heart. One that does not have Jesus is also to be loved. How important is this in your life as a saved person, I think it is the most important thing because if you fail to love you are not a person in the faith. Jesus said it was the most important thing in this life is to Love God and Love each other. What is love, It is giving your self up for another. If you fail at love you not in the Lords will. People ask What is Gods will for my life and the first thing is to love others and Him.
I think one time God sent a angel to me. I am not sure but I think he wanted to show me he knows and loves me. I met this gal and never seen or heard from her but I know she was saved and Loved the Lord and God used her. Many times in my walk the Lord has put people to make me aware of himself. I am not sure if they are angels but I know that I might be the one that inspires people so I need to live in a better way so Jesus can use me. Jesus alwas found time to love on people and we are to be like Jesus. He is asking you to be the only Jesus in someones life so I am asking you to pleaswe love the unloved and try to love the heretic because they are not going to be saved if they see no love. Jesus said
“Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me” (Matt. 25:40). To feed the hungry, take in the stranger, clothe the naked, and visit the imprisoned in Jesus’ name is to serve Him. To turn our backs on those in need of such things is to turn our backs on Him (v. 45).
It is not love if you fail in this. It is bad. Give to the food shelf and when one asks give to them a gift giving it to Jesus because you are giving it to Jesus.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.

I have thought hard whether on not to make this comment and because I have been turned away from a church I need to make it. I have been told not to go to a missions thing at a baptist church in sartell in MN. I think this is something the body of Jesus needs to know because it is so foul and bad that in needs to be exposed. I did sin but the Pastor of this place has been nonforgiveing as also one of the decons wifes. I have made many attempts in asking for forgiving and they failed. I have also made the decision to make this public because this church has basically said I am not a saved person. If they come say they did not I can provide proof. Also they tell me I am not right to say anything about the church but I think and rule that I can and my reasons are the pastor is sinning and allowing the free expression of faith to me to be expressed and the people of that church have not forgave me and the bible is not being preacehed there. I proclaim the market on sound churches in the Metro St Cloud to not be. I think a good church is going to follow the John Macarthur/grace model of good verse by verse teaching. A good church is going to have services on Sunday night and wed night. A good solid church is going to have a solid bible based statement of doctrine and that is going to include the salvation that you cannot lose, the separation of the church from the world and the purity of the saints. In the comments I am going to link to the place on the net that lists the best churches in this land. They do not hold to the King James only or that ccm is sinful.
Friday night lights is a good tv show and they are praying in Jesus name and that my friend is awesome.
I want to run this because it might clear a ton of things up on what the Lord is about. I think this ought to be put on my site tons more and I think the wacky baptist in this town need this to read this and morn and I think most christians need to see this and heed the call and preach tighis far and wide
Question
Please give some of the basics for Christian living. For instance, the scriptural viewpoint on dancing, drinking, smoking, and miniskirts, etc.?”
Answer
Let me answer this--and I want to answer this lovingly and yet I want to answer it pointedly. Dancing, drinking, smoking, and miniskirts are not the basics of Christian living. I mean that. They are not the basics of Christian living. Do you know there are some very good Mormons who don’t do any of those things and will spend eternity in hell? That’s right. Now listen to me. There are many people, and I mean good people, Christian people who mean well, who base their entire spiritual life on what they do not do! Did you know that? You know, “we don’t smoke and we don’t chew and we don’t go with girls that do,” you know, "rudy-toot-toot," see. “We’re the boys from the institute,” see... In other words, their entire orientation toward spirituality is what they don’t do.
And you know something? Usually they don’t do a lot of things. Mostly what they ought to do--they don’t do, along with what they ought not to do… They don’t do, they just don’t do. I wish they’d start doing what they ought to do, even if they want to keep on not doing what they ought not to do.
Beloved, I’ll tell you, let me tell you this: if you’re going around and you’ve got your thumb in your mouth and you’ve got your security blanket and you’re tickling your nose with what you don’t do, I’d like to take your blanket away and make you face the issue that your spirituality is not a matter of what you don’t do! You say, “Are you saying it’s right to dance, drink, smoke, and wear a miniskirt?” I didn’t say that. The Bible doesn’t say it’s right or wrong to do those things; the Bible doesn’t talk about those things in that context. But I believe this: I believe that if you walk in the Spirit, the Spirit of God will take care of those kinds of issues. But if you just base your spirituality on whether you do or don’t do those things, then you have set up an artificial standard of your spirituality, you have probably bypassed true spirituality, and you have suckered yourself into thinking you’re securely mature when in fact you’re infantile.
Now, that’s hard stuff, but I believe that. I’m not advocating all these things; listen, I have very strong convictions about what’s right and what’s wrong and I’ll tell you, I don’t do any of those things, including wearing a miniskirt. And I want you to know that as a Scotsman, we have the right to do that. Kilts have been in our family for years. But the reason I don’t do those things has nothing to do with what I think the standards of the Christian life are; it has to do with what I think my testimony must be before other believers.
When you go around and you start evaluating people’s spirituality by what they don’t do, you’re really sitting in the wrong seat, doing the wrong thing, on the wrong basis. People say to me so often, “Do you think it’s a sin to smoke?” Of course it isn’t a sin to smoke! Where would you ever get the idea it’s a sin to smoke? You say, “But we’ve always thought it was a sin…” Listen, the Bible doesn’t say anything about it! If you want to put leaves in your mouth and set them on fire, that’s… You know. I mean, I heard one fellow say one time, “Who likes to lean down and kiss a girl and smell a camel?” You know…
I’m being facetious, but the Bible doesn’t say, “Don’t do that.” I’ll tell you what the Bible does say; it does say, “Don’t gossip… Don’t backbite.” And the Bible does say, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength,” and if you begin on that principle, maybe smoking can take care of itself. But you see what I’m saying is people don’t do all these little things and they kid themselves into thinking that that’s spirituality when all it is, is an inherited traditional legalism. True spirituality isn’t that at all. But I believe, beloved, true spirituality, in its depth and maturity, takes care of those kind of things.
Let me give you a little thought. You know the Bible talks about walking in the Spirit in the New Testament? This is the key to the Christian life. Do you believe the Holy Spirit can guide your life? Do you believe that we need to have a big thing here in Grace Church that says, “We don’t…we don’t…we don’t…we don’t…we don’t…”? All we need to say is this: “We do walk in the Spirit.” You know, in our house, I don’t have a sign in the kitchen that says, “Do not beat your wife. Do not maim the children.” Do you know why? I love my wife, I love my children! That precludes the necessity for the rule.
Listen, when the apostle Paul wrote Romans 13, he said this: “Loving the Lord and loving your neighbor is the fulfillment of all,” what? “The law.” So you see, the artificial standard of spirituality is the list of what we don’t do. True spirituality is walking in the Spirit and letting the Spirit convict us of the things the Spirit wants to convict us of--That’s his business.
Now, I’m talking about gray area things. Of course, we know some things are wrong. Clearly the Bible defines many things that are sinful and wrong. You read them; there are lists of them in the New Testament. But when we get into gray area things…You know, kids always say, “Do you think it’s a sin to dance?” And you know, it’s an interesting thing, I said to this group of kids this week, I said, “You know, before you were a Christian, you used to think you had to go to the dance, kind of dance with the girl, get her in the right mood and then you could go out and neck. Then you became a Christian and you realized you don’t dance; you just go straight out and neck, you see?” Yeah, well, you know, the whole place just broke up. I mean, they knew exactly what I was talking about. I mean, there wasn’t one guy in the building that didn’t understand that.
But you see, there’s the artificial standard of spirituality: we don’t do this. Oh ho, but what we do! See. But that isn’t covered in the list. It’s very obvious to me, people, that for somebody to flop on somebody else and wander around a floor with moody music playing is not conducive to spiritual growth. That’s very apparent. I don’t need a rule on that; the Holy Spirit’s told me that very simply. I understand that very clearly. And I realize too that a person’s clothing and how they dress is usually a revelation of the depth of their spirituality, but don’t let your dress become your standard of spirituality.
You see, Jesus said in John 15, “Hereby is my father glorified that you bear,” what? “Much fruit.” You know what fruit is? Well, you can look about and you find that fruit is good works (Colossians). Fruit is not only good works; fruit is attitudes. And so I’ve divided fruit into two things: action fruit and attitude fruit. You know what attitude fruit is? Galatians 5: “The fruit of the Spirit is,” what? All attitudes: love, joy, faith, and so forth… Goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, self-control. That’s attitude fruit. Now watch. The result of attitude fruit is action fruit. If you do action fruit without attitude fruit, that’s legalism. Did you get that? Because you’re cranking it out in the flesh. If you walk in the Spirit, the Spirit produces the right attitude that’s produces the right behavior.
If you’re just out there subscribing to some code, bypassing the attitude, that’s legalism. Now mark it. The legalists and the truly liberated, godly, Spirit-filled Christian may do the very same things. One does them in response to the Holy Spirit; the other does them to try to buy favor with God. Do you see the difference?
Well, this is an important issue and I don’t think that you’d want to ever get in the place where you evaluate your spirituality by what you don’t do--very, very dangerous.

Get out the hankys out MN and get behind our twins. Iu went to the game this day and I am proud of the fact we went. We parked at the mall and we had to take a train to the games.(9000 going to the dome) It was a long line but I guess that is fine. I like crowds and how they were controlled. I like to people watch. I like to go out in the shopping malls and grab a coke and watch. We rode the train and got to the dome and it was loud and you could hear it on the outside of the dome. I guess the game was a pitching drel and Santana threw a great game. He got 8 ks and that is good. The As pitcher was just shooting the twins and that is not good. Frank Thomas hit us like he always has.
Santana threw a gem to Go twins

Internet privacy is something I think I need to learn. We live in a day and age that if you post things on a email or on the blog if the people do not understand you it can look and sound so bad. A church in the area taught me this. I wrote things that people took wrong and the pastor is asking me to stay away. I wrote things here that make my own pastor not happy to shepred me. The Internet is a fun hangout and I am always on it, but sometimes I just do not get understood and you all take me wrong. No I am not going away because I said until everyone in the world agree on everything I am going to stay right on this. But I need to do a bit of net safety for me and set some guidelines. I want you to help me by giving some guidelines.
Twins won the Central today. I might go to a playoff game but if I have to work that is more important right now. I want to go but I also want others to have a chance to go if they can. I went to a game last time so I done it. I think we could have a good time in the playoffs but we got to play like we have been.
Hebrews 25 See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, 26 whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, “Yet once more I shake not only the earth, but also heaven.” 27 Now this, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain.
God has spoken to us in this last day and I wonder, are we listening to what God has said? Jesus came and gave his life so we can go free and serve God with all we have. It amazes me Jesus gave his life for sinners out of love and I still do not allow that to run my life. I want to run my life and I want to do it my way. Jesus has spoken to us and the words are not the thing that I hear , it is the cross alone that speaks to me and the cross said to me Jesus gave his life that he had for me.
Next thing is the truth that this earth and heaven13 is going to be shaken up and the only things we did for Jesus and did them in love are going to remain. Nothing done outside of Jesus is going to be here. That is something I ponder and I wonder about, what have I done for the Lord that is going to last. Here are some other places in the bible that talk about the end of the world
2 peter 3 10 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.1
1 what r we doing to save things for the next life?
2 Are we living as if the Lord is going to be here anytime?
3 I got to ask myself is my conduct in line with Jesus?
One thing this passage shows is the truth this place is going to end and all is going to go and that is something I need to ponder. Are my works ready to go and be judged when Jesus comes and the other thing is do we trust this word?
28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire.2
What is the Grace we are to have here? Is it that we ought to have favor and not condemn? I think it is the grace Jesus gives us and we ought not abuse it but to have grace and also serve with fear or respect and awe. Like if your playing in a pro ball field for the first time your going to know the place you play in is not a playground but the pros. Like if you play in Yankee stadium and it is the first time you play knowing others have played the game before you your going to respect the game and give it a little more.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c19