Wednesday, February 28, 2007
Jesus is still alive cameron sinking for this
Beware my friends of this tomb find. It is not the Lord Jesus. Jesus is alive and well and if you fail on that hell is going to be your home. James Cameron is going to sink for this lie. In the bible you lead people away your life is gone. Better a rock is hung to you and you go to the bottom of sea. Jesus said that and he makes it clear you fail to believe Jesus is alive your in hell. No matter the church you go to or the good you do fail to believe in Jesus being out of the tomb forget heaven.
I am posting a thing I found online that shows the serious doubts the world has.
Hollywood Hype: The Oscars and Jesus’ Family Tomb, What Do They Share? (expanded version)
Submitted by bock on Mon, 2007-02-26 12:06.
Today we have the battle of the hype: the Oscars versus the release of the family tomb of Jesus story. The tomb is an old story now being recycled in an effort to make far more of it than the evidence really requires. I was allowed to see a version of the story to air in March, but had to agree to a non-disclosure, a typical process in a story like this. That non-disclosure simply means I must wait to discuss the topic until the story officially breaks. I also wrote a summary report on it, some of the concepts I will now share on this blog, since I can now talk. There is no need to fear such discussions. The same evidence is there for all of us. We all want to discover the truth.
The key claims depend on numerous assumptions, cherry-picked evidence, if you wish.
First, there is a suggestion that this is a family tomb of Jesus, when Jesus was in Jerusalem as a pilgrim, not a Jerusalem resident. How did his family have the time in the aftermath of his death to buy the tomb space, while also pulling off a stealing of the body and continue to preach that Jesus was raised BODILY, not merely spiritually.
The bodily part of this resurrection is key because in Judaism when there was a belief in resurrection it was a belief in a bodily resurrection a redemption that redeemed the full scope of what God had created. If one reads 2 Maccabees 7. one will see the martyrdom of the third son of seven executed who declares that they can mutilate his tongue and hands for defending the law, because God will give them back to him one day.
Here are the details:
As this third son faces death, 2 Maccabees 7:10-11 presents this summary of the martyrdom, “After him, the third was the victim of their sport. When it was demanded, he quickly put out his tongue and courageously stretched forth his hands, and said nobly, “I got these from Heaven, and because of his laws I disdain them, and from him I hope to get them back again.” After the sons perish, the mother declares her hope in 7:20-23, “The mother was especially admirable and worthy of honorable memory. Although she saw her seven sons perish within a single day, she bore it with good courage because of her hope in the Lord. She encouraged each of them in the language of their ancestors. Filled with a noble spirit, she reinforced her woman’s reasoning with a man’s courage, and said to them, ‘I do not know how you came into being in my womb. It was not I who gave you life and breath, nor I who set in order the elements within each of you. Therefore the Creator of the world, who shaped the beginning of humankind and devised the origin of all things, will in his mercy give life and breath back to you again, since you now forget yourselves for the sake of his laws.’” The point is important, because just as with the creation teaching, the difference between the alternative of only having the spirit live and having the entire person be renewed is part of what distinguished the two groups (Christians and Christian Gnostics). The earliest Christianity came out of a Judaism that believed in a physical resurrection, which is why a claim about only needing a spiritual resurrection does not fit with historic Christianity. To lack a bodily resurrection teaching is to teach in distinction from what the earliest church had received as a key element of the hope that Jesus left his followers, a hope that itself was rooted in Jewish precedent. Paul, our earliest witness to testify to this in writings we possess, was a former Pharisee who held to a physical resurrection as 1 Corinthians 15 also makes clear. Paul matches the Maccabean picture noted above. He explicitly denies an approach that accepts only a spiritual resurrection.
Second, we have to believe that in a family tomb, some who were not in the family are included, that is, Matthew. How do we explain his bone box being there? There is no record of a Matthew being a part of the family of Jesus. Other explanations that place him there because he wrote a gospel are simply that, hypothesized explanations with no hard evidence. Does this inflate the statistical numbers in the show to include such “evidence?” Also if Matthew can be there as a non-relative and a significant disciple, then could the same be true of Mary?
Third, we have to accept that as the mourning family scrambled to steal the body from Joseph of Arimathea's tomb (where several knew the body was originally placed) and yet they preached an empty tomb and resurrection when they actually knew that Jesus was not raised, doing so at the risk of their own lives as Jesus' half brother's death (James) in AD 62 shows. This scenario for the hypothesis' truth involves several assumptions, the absence of any of which destroys the claim. Let's repeat this: they had to SECRETLY buy the tomb space from someone, prepare an ossuary over a year’s period and then choose to adorn this ossuary of Jesus with graffiti-like script to name their dead hero. Surely if they had a year to prepare honoring Jesus, whom they had highly regarded, they would have adorned his ossuary with more than a mere graffiti like description. Note how some of the other ossuaries in this tomb are quite adorned, as pictures from the press conference showed. Not to mention that some of the family died for this belief, when they really knew Jesus had not left the tomb empty. This scenario as a whole seems quite implausible. I have not even raised the issue of Jesus' family being able to afford such a tomb, since they were at best lower middle class and these are upper echelon tombs (If waelthy bebefactor gave them this site, then there are people in Jerusalem who know where this site is and the secrecy of the locale is lost).
Fourth, there is the name Mariamne, a variation of Maria, one of the most common of names of the time. It is like saying every Susan married to a Richard can only be one family and that finding that Maria and Maria are related names is a surprise (a little like calling William, Bill)
Here are the details on names provided to me by Prof Richard Bauckham of St. Andrews and sourced in a famous catalogue of ossuary names that has been out since 2002 with the information known about this locale since c. 1980 (In fact, in a quite helpful move, the Discovery Channel web site has a page where one can look at the inscriptions that are on these ossuaries):
“Out of a total number of 2625 males, these are the figures for the ten most popular male names among Palestinian Jews. The first figure is the total number of occurrences (from this number, with 2625 as the total for all names, you could calculate percentages), while the second is the number of occurrences specifically on ossuraries.
1 Simon/Simeon 243 592 Joseph 218 453 Eleazar 166 294 Judah 164 445 John/Yohanan 122 256 Jesus 99 227 Hananiah 82 188 Jonathan 71 149 Matthew 62 1710 Manaen/Menahem 42 4
For women, we have a total of 328 occurrences (women's names are much less often recorded than men's), and figures for the 4 most popular names are thus:
Mary/Mariamne 70 42Salome 58 41Shelamzion 24 19Martha 20 17
You can see at once that all the names you're interested were extremely popular. 21% of Jewish women were called Mariamne (Mary). The chances of the people in the ossuaries being the Jesus and Mary Magdalene of the New Testament must be very small indeed.”
Fifth, there is the DNA showing that Mariamne and Jesus DNA residue do not match. Now with how many women in Judea would Jesus’ DNA not match? Even women named Mary/Mariamne? This proves nothing. That a match would take place is a one in several thousand likelihood. This is like my asking, how many people in your town or city do you have a DNA match with? This evidence does not prove she is a wife. It simply says that A jesus and A mary are not biologically related. The questions one could raise include which male in the tomb is she attached to, if to any of them? In fact, the fact that only two boxes were tested means that we do not even know if this is a family tomb, since the two tested show no relationship. The DNA coudl prove the exact opposite of what is being claimed.
Sixth, to get Mariamne to match Mary Magdalene and not a host of any other Mary’s, one has to appeal to an apocryphal Acts in a fourth century manuscript. Without that, there is not even a possibility of a connection. The Acts of Philip and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene to show that Jesu swas married ot Mary Magdalene is old evidence that was already vetted in the DaVinci Code discussion (See my Breaking the DaVinci Code). In other words, we do not know Mary/Mariamne is Mary Magdalene, a very key point that has to be true for this claim to work.
Seventh, if one pays close attention to the special when it airs over the weekend, one will see that when the subject of the connection is raised with the most well known of these experts, they all say the connection is NOT credible because the names are so common. These experts have known about this locale for decades. NONE of the most well known experts are actually cited as embracing the claim of the special. Surely they asked them this question about a specific connection, did they not? In other words, the silence on such a lack of endorsements for the figures brought in to corroborate certain details is deafening.
Eighth, the remark about “Mara.” Here are the words of Prof. Bauckham, “'Mara' in this context does not mean Master. It is an abbreviated form of Martha, probably the ossuary contained two women called Mary and Martha (Mariamne and Mara).”
Ninth, there are claims about an ossuary of Peter, even though there is a rich tradition that he died in Rome that has to be wrong for that claim to work.
Finally, there are the statistics. To get to the high numbers, all the assumptions made above about the identifications have to be put into the numbers pot, including Matthew, a name simply called “consistent with the family.” How? Where is the evidence for this?
So what we have is a special, making a claim about an old finding, cherry-picking the evidence to hype it as more compelling than it actually is. It ALL has to fit in place to work. The statistics for that, given just what I have raised above, would be fun to calculate.
Now let me say this about the special. There is much here about first century sites and practices that is informative. The resource pages on the web site have some helpful information. The process of investigasting a site is nicely revealed here. It is the "frosting" of this hypothesis, full of assumptions, that is the key problem. That part of the show is like a slide show where each slide raises a question that has to be answered in a single way on each slide for the hypothesis to stand and all of the slides have to work in a particular way for the hypothesis to stand. There are just too many questions and holes for those claism to line up and work.
When we watch the Oscars, the golden medallion is passed out for acting that is praise worthy. Movies are about stories that look real but are not. This special matches up with that depiction of reality. Compelling TV and dramatic, but in the end, complete historical fiction. Hopefully our times have not slid to the point where we can no longer tell the difference between Jerusalem and Hollywood.
I am posting a thing I found online that shows the serious doubts the world has.
Hollywood Hype: The Oscars and Jesus’ Family Tomb, What Do They Share? (expanded version)
Submitted by bock on Mon, 2007-02-26 12:06.
Today we have the battle of the hype: the Oscars versus the release of the family tomb of Jesus story. The tomb is an old story now being recycled in an effort to make far more of it than the evidence really requires. I was allowed to see a version of the story to air in March, but had to agree to a non-disclosure, a typical process in a story like this. That non-disclosure simply means I must wait to discuss the topic until the story officially breaks. I also wrote a summary report on it, some of the concepts I will now share on this blog, since I can now talk. There is no need to fear such discussions. The same evidence is there for all of us. We all want to discover the truth.
The key claims depend on numerous assumptions, cherry-picked evidence, if you wish.
First, there is a suggestion that this is a family tomb of Jesus, when Jesus was in Jerusalem as a pilgrim, not a Jerusalem resident. How did his family have the time in the aftermath of his death to buy the tomb space, while also pulling off a stealing of the body and continue to preach that Jesus was raised BODILY, not merely spiritually.
The bodily part of this resurrection is key because in Judaism when there was a belief in resurrection it was a belief in a bodily resurrection a redemption that redeemed the full scope of what God had created. If one reads 2 Maccabees 7. one will see the martyrdom of the third son of seven executed who declares that they can mutilate his tongue and hands for defending the law, because God will give them back to him one day.
Here are the details:
As this third son faces death, 2 Maccabees 7:10-11 presents this summary of the martyrdom, “After him, the third was the victim of their sport. When it was demanded, he quickly put out his tongue and courageously stretched forth his hands, and said nobly, “I got these from Heaven, and because of his laws I disdain them, and from him I hope to get them back again.” After the sons perish, the mother declares her hope in 7:20-23, “The mother was especially admirable and worthy of honorable memory. Although she saw her seven sons perish within a single day, she bore it with good courage because of her hope in the Lord. She encouraged each of them in the language of their ancestors. Filled with a noble spirit, she reinforced her woman’s reasoning with a man’s courage, and said to them, ‘I do not know how you came into being in my womb. It was not I who gave you life and breath, nor I who set in order the elements within each of you. Therefore the Creator of the world, who shaped the beginning of humankind and devised the origin of all things, will in his mercy give life and breath back to you again, since you now forget yourselves for the sake of his laws.’” The point is important, because just as with the creation teaching, the difference between the alternative of only having the spirit live and having the entire person be renewed is part of what distinguished the two groups (Christians and Christian Gnostics). The earliest Christianity came out of a Judaism that believed in a physical resurrection, which is why a claim about only needing a spiritual resurrection does not fit with historic Christianity. To lack a bodily resurrection teaching is to teach in distinction from what the earliest church had received as a key element of the hope that Jesus left his followers, a hope that itself was rooted in Jewish precedent. Paul, our earliest witness to testify to this in writings we possess, was a former Pharisee who held to a physical resurrection as 1 Corinthians 15 also makes clear. Paul matches the Maccabean picture noted above. He explicitly denies an approach that accepts only a spiritual resurrection.
Second, we have to believe that in a family tomb, some who were not in the family are included, that is, Matthew. How do we explain his bone box being there? There is no record of a Matthew being a part of the family of Jesus. Other explanations that place him there because he wrote a gospel are simply that, hypothesized explanations with no hard evidence. Does this inflate the statistical numbers in the show to include such “evidence?” Also if Matthew can be there as a non-relative and a significant disciple, then could the same be true of Mary?
Third, we have to accept that as the mourning family scrambled to steal the body from Joseph of Arimathea's tomb (where several knew the body was originally placed) and yet they preached an empty tomb and resurrection when they actually knew that Jesus was not raised, doing so at the risk of their own lives as Jesus' half brother's death (James) in AD 62 shows. This scenario for the hypothesis' truth involves several assumptions, the absence of any of which destroys the claim. Let's repeat this: they had to SECRETLY buy the tomb space from someone, prepare an ossuary over a year’s period and then choose to adorn this ossuary of Jesus with graffiti-like script to name their dead hero. Surely if they had a year to prepare honoring Jesus, whom they had highly regarded, they would have adorned his ossuary with more than a mere graffiti like description. Note how some of the other ossuaries in this tomb are quite adorned, as pictures from the press conference showed. Not to mention that some of the family died for this belief, when they really knew Jesus had not left the tomb empty. This scenario as a whole seems quite implausible. I have not even raised the issue of Jesus' family being able to afford such a tomb, since they were at best lower middle class and these are upper echelon tombs (If waelthy bebefactor gave them this site, then there are people in Jerusalem who know where this site is and the secrecy of the locale is lost).
Fourth, there is the name Mariamne, a variation of Maria, one of the most common of names of the time. It is like saying every Susan married to a Richard can only be one family and that finding that Maria and Maria are related names is a surprise (a little like calling William, Bill)
Here are the details on names provided to me by Prof Richard Bauckham of St. Andrews and sourced in a famous catalogue of ossuary names that has been out since 2002 with the information known about this locale since c. 1980 (In fact, in a quite helpful move, the Discovery Channel web site has a page where one can look at the inscriptions that are on these ossuaries):
“Out of a total number of 2625 males, these are the figures for the ten most popular male names among Palestinian Jews. The first figure is the total number of occurrences (from this number, with 2625 as the total for all names, you could calculate percentages), while the second is the number of occurrences specifically on ossuraries.
1 Simon/Simeon 243 592 Joseph 218 453 Eleazar 166 294 Judah 164 445 John/Yohanan 122 256 Jesus 99 227 Hananiah 82 188 Jonathan 71 149 Matthew 62 1710 Manaen/Menahem 42 4
For women, we have a total of 328 occurrences (women's names are much less often recorded than men's), and figures for the 4 most popular names are thus:
Mary/Mariamne 70 42Salome 58 41Shelamzion 24 19Martha 20 17
You can see at once that all the names you're interested were extremely popular. 21% of Jewish women were called Mariamne (Mary). The chances of the people in the ossuaries being the Jesus and Mary Magdalene of the New Testament must be very small indeed.”
Fifth, there is the DNA showing that Mariamne and Jesus DNA residue do not match. Now with how many women in Judea would Jesus’ DNA not match? Even women named Mary/Mariamne? This proves nothing. That a match would take place is a one in several thousand likelihood. This is like my asking, how many people in your town or city do you have a DNA match with? This evidence does not prove she is a wife. It simply says that A jesus and A mary are not biologically related. The questions one could raise include which male in the tomb is she attached to, if to any of them? In fact, the fact that only two boxes were tested means that we do not even know if this is a family tomb, since the two tested show no relationship. The DNA coudl prove the exact opposite of what is being claimed.
Sixth, to get Mariamne to match Mary Magdalene and not a host of any other Mary’s, one has to appeal to an apocryphal Acts in a fourth century manuscript. Without that, there is not even a possibility of a connection. The Acts of Philip and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene to show that Jesu swas married ot Mary Magdalene is old evidence that was already vetted in the DaVinci Code discussion (See my Breaking the DaVinci Code). In other words, we do not know Mary/Mariamne is Mary Magdalene, a very key point that has to be true for this claim to work.
Seventh, if one pays close attention to the special when it airs over the weekend, one will see that when the subject of the connection is raised with the most well known of these experts, they all say the connection is NOT credible because the names are so common. These experts have known about this locale for decades. NONE of the most well known experts are actually cited as embracing the claim of the special. Surely they asked them this question about a specific connection, did they not? In other words, the silence on such a lack of endorsements for the figures brought in to corroborate certain details is deafening.
Eighth, the remark about “Mara.” Here are the words of Prof. Bauckham, “'Mara' in this context does not mean Master. It is an abbreviated form of Martha, probably the ossuary contained two women called Mary and Martha (Mariamne and Mara).”
Ninth, there are claims about an ossuary of Peter, even though there is a rich tradition that he died in Rome that has to be wrong for that claim to work.
Finally, there are the statistics. To get to the high numbers, all the assumptions made above about the identifications have to be put into the numbers pot, including Matthew, a name simply called “consistent with the family.” How? Where is the evidence for this?
So what we have is a special, making a claim about an old finding, cherry-picking the evidence to hype it as more compelling than it actually is. It ALL has to fit in place to work. The statistics for that, given just what I have raised above, would be fun to calculate.
Now let me say this about the special. There is much here about first century sites and practices that is informative. The resource pages on the web site have some helpful information. The process of investigasting a site is nicely revealed here. It is the "frosting" of this hypothesis, full of assumptions, that is the key problem. That part of the show is like a slide show where each slide raises a question that has to be answered in a single way on each slide for the hypothesis to stand and all of the slides have to work in a particular way for the hypothesis to stand. There are just too many questions and holes for those claism to line up and work.
When we watch the Oscars, the golden medallion is passed out for acting that is praise worthy. Movies are about stories that look real but are not. This special matches up with that depiction of reality. Compelling TV and dramatic, but in the end, complete historical fiction. Hopefully our times have not slid to the point where we can no longer tell the difference between Jerusalem and Hollywood.
Labels: tomb of jesus. jesus
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
More on Calvin
Tim no I am not here bashing to you. And all this junk on Macarthur is going to be on here so get use to it because I know John and many people at grace. I know 3 Pastors at grace and many at the school he is Pres of. I have been thought grace to you 2 times and seen in action all they do. I have well over 1000 tapes of him preaching and listened to will over 400. So when you rip on him your ripping on a man I know very well. I know he studies the bible 40 hours a week for 50 years for a fact. He is the greatest bible scholar alive by far. So when he talked about this topic he has done work on it more then Jones or Hyles ever did combined. One more thing on John he is a humble man and I have spoke to him at least 10 times and know people who have personal friendships with him including his doc and his son who I talk to at least 3 times a week. So I will use him as a resource and if you do not like him I can tell you as a man who does a ton of work in this day of national teachers He is real and humble and there is not anything you can really say bad about Macarthur.
As for the passage I am not of the belief that man has no place in his own salvation. Paul said to work is out with fear and trembling, Peter said that whoever will can have it. Yet I do not think everyone can freely chose without the total work of Gods grace. I will get to that but I still have 50 passages to go in my intro on the topic. Then I go into the TULIP issues and the verses on all of them. Then I got sermons if we got time to go over.
So Lets go on this bible survey on the Gods C choice
Acts 2 22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it1
Purpose of God and foreknowledge of God by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God. From eternity past (2 Tim. 1:9; Rev. 13:8) God predetermined that Jesus would die an atoning death as part of the His pre-ordained plan (4:27, 28; 13:27–29).2
Acts 2 38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
3
As many as the the Lord will call. It is also proof God is calling.
Word for today
CALL, CALLING — an important theological idea with several different meanings in the Bible:
1. God’s call of individuals to Salvation, made possible by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (Rom. 8:28–30; 1 Thess. 2:12). God’s call to salvation also involves believers in the high calling of living their lives in service to others (1 Cor. 7:20).
Not a mac source btw.
Acts 2 And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.4
GOD adds to the church not you come and get in. God does all the saving and all you do is what the Lords power grants you to do and that is chose him. Yes there is a part you chose but not on your own it is the work of Jesus and the Holy Ghost that grants you the faith.
.
Acts 13 48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.5
As many that were appointed got saved. God had his people picked out it said to get saved.
13:48 appointed to eternal life. One of Scripture’s clearest statements on the sovereignty of God in salvation. God chooses man for salvation, not the opposite (John 6:65; Eph. 1:4; Col. 3:12; 2 Thess. 2:13). Faith itself is a gift from God (Eph. 2:8, 9).6
God picked Paul as he did for all the saved.
12 “Then a certain Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good testimony with all the Jews who dwelt there, 13 came to me; and he stood and said to me, ‘Brother Saul, receive your sight.’ And at that same hour I looked up at him. 14 Then he said, ‘The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16 And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’7
On to the book of Romans where I am going to get nailed because this debate has got so much in this book.
Romans 1 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God 2 which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, 3 concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead. 5 Through Him we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name, 6 among whom you also are the called of Jesus Christ;8
Rom 8 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.9
Macs thoughts
8:29 foreknew. Not a reference simply to God’s omniscience—that in eternity past He knew who would come to Christ. Rather, it speaks of a predetermined choice to set His love on us and established an intimate relationship—or His election (cf. Acts 2:23—an inviolable rule of Gr. grammar, called the Granville Sharp rule, equates “predestinated” and “foreknowledge;” see notes on 1 Pet. 1:1, 2, and cf. with 1:20—the term must be interpreted the same in both verses). See notes on election in 9:10–24. predestined. Lit. “to mark out, appoint, or determine beforehand.” Those God chooses, He destines for His chosen end—that is, likeness to His Son (see notes on Eph. 1:4, 5, 11). conformed to the image of His Son. The goal of God’s predestined purpose for His own is that they would be made like Jesus Christ. This is the “prize of the upward call” (Phil. 3:14); cf. Eph. 4:13; Col. 1:28; Phil. 3:20, 21; 1 John 3:2). firstborn. The preeminent one, the only one who is the rightful heir (cf. Ps. 89:27; Col. 1:15–18; Rev. 1:5). Jesus Christ is the most notable one among those who have become “brethren” by being made like Him.10
Lots of thoughts on this passage and next time I am going to look if I can find some other thoughts that we can compare.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
As for the passage I am not of the belief that man has no place in his own salvation. Paul said to work is out with fear and trembling, Peter said that whoever will can have it. Yet I do not think everyone can freely chose without the total work of Gods grace. I will get to that but I still have 50 passages to go in my intro on the topic. Then I go into the TULIP issues and the verses on all of them. Then I got sermons if we got time to go over.
So Lets go on this bible survey on the Gods C choice
Acts 2 22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know— 23 Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death; 24 whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it1
Purpose of God and foreknowledge of God by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God. From eternity past (2 Tim. 1:9; Rev. 13:8) God predetermined that Jesus would die an atoning death as part of the His pre-ordained plan (4:27, 28; 13:27–29).2
Acts 2 38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
3
As many as the the Lord will call. It is also proof God is calling.
Word for today
CALL, CALLING — an important theological idea with several different meanings in the Bible:
1. God’s call of individuals to Salvation, made possible by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross (Rom. 8:28–30; 1 Thess. 2:12). God’s call to salvation also involves believers in the high calling of living their lives in service to others (1 Cor. 7:20).
Not a mac source btw.
Acts 2 And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.4
GOD adds to the church not you come and get in. God does all the saving and all you do is what the Lords power grants you to do and that is chose him. Yes there is a part you chose but not on your own it is the work of Jesus and the Holy Ghost that grants you the faith.
.
Acts 13 48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.5
As many that were appointed got saved. God had his people picked out it said to get saved.
13:48 appointed to eternal life. One of Scripture’s clearest statements on the sovereignty of God in salvation. God chooses man for salvation, not the opposite (John 6:65; Eph. 1:4; Col. 3:12; 2 Thess. 2:13). Faith itself is a gift from God (Eph. 2:8, 9).6
God picked Paul as he did for all the saved.
12 “Then a certain Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good testimony with all the Jews who dwelt there, 13 came to me; and he stood and said to me, ‘Brother Saul, receive your sight.’ And at that same hour I looked up at him. 14 Then he said, ‘The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His mouth. 15 For you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. 16 And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’7
On to the book of Romans where I am going to get nailed because this debate has got so much in this book.
Romans 1 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God 2 which He promised before through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures, 3 concerning His Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 and declared to be the Son of God with power according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead. 5 Through Him we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name, 6 among whom you also are the called of Jesus Christ;8
Rom 8 28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. 29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.9
Macs thoughts
8:29 foreknew. Not a reference simply to God’s omniscience—that in eternity past He knew who would come to Christ. Rather, it speaks of a predetermined choice to set His love on us and established an intimate relationship—or His election (cf. Acts 2:23—an inviolable rule of Gr. grammar, called the Granville Sharp rule, equates “predestinated” and “foreknowledge;” see notes on 1 Pet. 1:1, 2, and cf. with 1:20—the term must be interpreted the same in both verses). See notes on election in 9:10–24. predestined. Lit. “to mark out, appoint, or determine beforehand.” Those God chooses, He destines for His chosen end—that is, likeness to His Son (see notes on Eph. 1:4, 5, 11). conformed to the image of His Son. The goal of God’s predestined purpose for His own is that they would be made like Jesus Christ. This is the “prize of the upward call” (Phil. 3:14); cf. Eph. 4:13; Col. 1:28; Phil. 3:20, 21; 1 John 3:2). firstborn. The preeminent one, the only one who is the rightful heir (cf. Ps. 89:27; Col. 1:15–18; Rev. 1:5). Jesus Christ is the most notable one among those who have become “brethren” by being made like Him.10
Lots of thoughts on this passage and next time I am going to look if I can find some other thoughts that we can compare.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
Monday, February 26, 2007
Warning to the people of the world
First they did not find Jesus bones. He is not dead he is in heaven with God. His body is there in heaven. It raises some doubts but I am not going to doubt. It has no proof. I mean how can you get the dna of Jesus? It is not possible is it? No it is not to me because Jesus was alive and the bible said the people that did not want to trust it said the body was stolen away. If it was why in the Bible did it not say Jesus had a wife and son before he died. Friends He is alive and no box of bones are going to make me think otherwise. The bible told us folks are going to do this in the end. People are going to lead away to new things and think there is no Jesus. We need not panic on one hand because it is what Jesus said was going to happen. Yet I hate the folks making Jesus out to be a liar. I hate having to sit here and take heaat from folks that is going to come telling me Jesus is not real and I hate arguing stuff. But I have to. People are going to things that are faked. Also It is good to point out Our faith is not out harming people over this. Muslims protest when we offend them.
And for those that think this is open minded need to know this makes me more closed to other faiths. Jesus words are coming to pass. Wars are happening, people are starving, people are going to jail in lands for being a part of Jesus and the time is here that preachers go to jail for proclaiming Homos are going to no go to heaven. Bible believers are falling to the call. People are calling truth false like Calvin and Election. Folks are dieing left and right of no food. Read Matt 24 and Jesus said this is going to happen. So I hope this is a wake up call to many who are living a lie and help them to live as if Jesus is back this night, And if not I hope you will fight this lie in the end and tell others this is a mockery of God and He is going to take out anger on the folks that think this is true. I urge you to heed this that if you take this wrong and think Jesus is dead you will not have God on your side and God is not going to bring your soul to him in the end. Jesus said it I am his If I believe and if not Hell os where I would go. I am not going to tell you your ok if you mind is open your ok. If your not saved by the Lord your in trouble because you have sinned and have no hope. Do not listen to the world about Jesus Listen to the bible and that alone.
And for those that think this is open minded need to know this makes me more closed to other faiths. Jesus words are coming to pass. Wars are happening, people are starving, people are going to jail in lands for being a part of Jesus and the time is here that preachers go to jail for proclaiming Homos are going to no go to heaven. Bible believers are falling to the call. People are calling truth false like Calvin and Election. Folks are dieing left and right of no food. Read Matt 24 and Jesus said this is going to happen. So I hope this is a wake up call to many who are living a lie and help them to live as if Jesus is back this night, And if not I hope you will fight this lie in the end and tell others this is a mockery of God and He is going to take out anger on the folks that think this is true. I urge you to heed this that if you take this wrong and think Jesus is dead you will not have God on your side and God is not going to bring your soul to him in the end. Jesus said it I am his If I believe and if not Hell os where I would go. I am not going to tell you your ok if you mind is open your ok. If your not saved by the Lord your in trouble because you have sinned and have no hope. Do not listen to the world about Jesus Listen to the bible and that alone.
Sunday, February 25, 2007
More on Calvin
I do know why Tim has a problem with the Calvin thing. It has to do with the great commission and perhaps the command Jesus left us with. I say this that Calvinism is the reason we need to do more. Jesus command is all we need to have to get out and share Jesus and do all we can to share Jesus. We ought to make our money the Lords, send billions out to the work of converting the lost and send out people to the people who do not know Jesus. It is our job to convert this world from sin. So do not allow my study to alter your giving or working for the Lord. Every one out there converting people with truth are helping in Jesus work. I am not talking about some of the men who are sinning and have less than bible like honor in their life's. Bob Jones who has no love for black people and Jack Hyles and his less than good testimony. Note they hate this doctrine and they are both less than fit?
As for Israel being the elect in mattew that is not right. If it is debates rage on this issue. I want you kids to know that Bro Tim is on the other side of a major debate and Tim is it ok for you to just call me a false teacher when this is not a issue solved. Mathew 22 14 Macarthur notes this. I know your not a fan of John Macarthur but I think this note in his bible is right until you show me other wise:
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.1
Lets go back to the study and place more proof
Luke 8 10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that
‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’2
Jesus hides the kingdom from the nation of Israel. Matter of truth the Lord hides it from all unsaved people. Israel is no longer the only nation Jesus is giving the truth to, the church is the new plan of Jesus. We can nail that a ton and I will wait. I want you to see the concept here of Jesus that he is hiding truth and that friends is key to election.
Luke 10 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”3
Names in book of life mean there is a book of life and I went over that this is a pre written book
Luke 18 6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”4
This is not the people of the old in this the elect are selected people saved. It might be the folks saved by Jesus but they are referred to as the elect.
Here is some Greek on the word Elect
1588 eklektos { ek-lek-tos’}
) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
1a2) the Messiah in called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians5
Lets move on
John 6 . 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me. This verse emphasizes the sovereign will of God in the selection of those who come to come to Him for salvation (cf. vv. 44, 65; 17:6, 12, 24). The Father has predestined those who would be saved (see notes on Rom. 8:29, 30; Eph. 1:3–6; 1 Pet. 1:2). The absolute sovereignty of God is the basis of Jesus’ confidence in the success of His mission (see note on v. 40; cf. Phil. 1:6). The security of salvation rests in the sovereignty of God, for God is the guarantee that "all" He has chosen will come to Him for salvation. The idea of "gives me" is that every person chosen by God and drawn by God (v. 44) must be seen as a gift of the Father’s love to the Son. The Son receives each "love gift" (v. 37), holds on to each (v. 39), and will raise each to eternal glory (vv. 39, 40). No one chosen will be lost (see notes on Rom. 8:31–39). This saving purpose is the Father’s will which the Son will not fail to do perfectly (v. 38; cf. 4:34; 10:28, 29; 17:6, 12, 24).6
Jn 6 44 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day7
Jn 6 65 . 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”8
Jn 17 6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.9
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.10
24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.11
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
I want to just touch on the rest of the Gospels and in time we go back and unpack more
John 15 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.'
Jesus had to choose us. How can you miss this here.
John 15 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 12
Jesus is talking to his own. We are not part of the world because we somehow picked Jesus. No thats not what the word teaches here. Jesus made a choice did he not? It was not our idea to find Jesus it was him finding us. It is easy to go with the world and serve the world. It is hard to come to God and pick his life. So to think you could want to that is not right.
Later Shadman
1John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
As for Israel being the elect in mattew that is not right. If it is debates rage on this issue. I want you kids to know that Bro Tim is on the other side of a major debate and Tim is it ok for you to just call me a false teacher when this is not a issue solved. Mathew 22 14 Macarthur notes this. I know your not a fan of John Macarthur but I think this note in his bible is right until you show me other wise:
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.1
Lets go back to the study and place more proof
Luke 8 10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that
‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’2
Jesus hides the kingdom from the nation of Israel. Matter of truth the Lord hides it from all unsaved people. Israel is no longer the only nation Jesus is giving the truth to, the church is the new plan of Jesus. We can nail that a ton and I will wait. I want you to see the concept here of Jesus that he is hiding truth and that friends is key to election.
Luke 10 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”3
Names in book of life mean there is a book of life and I went over that this is a pre written book
Luke 18 6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”4
This is not the people of the old in this the elect are selected people saved. It might be the folks saved by Jesus but they are referred to as the elect.
Here is some Greek on the word Elect
1588 eklektos { ek-lek-tos’}
) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
1a2) the Messiah in called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians5
Lets move on
John 6 . 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me. This verse emphasizes the sovereign will of God in the selection of those who come to come to Him for salvation (cf. vv. 44, 65; 17:6, 12, 24). The Father has predestined those who would be saved (see notes on Rom. 8:29, 30; Eph. 1:3–6; 1 Pet. 1:2). The absolute sovereignty of God is the basis of Jesus’ confidence in the success of His mission (see note on v. 40; cf. Phil. 1:6). The security of salvation rests in the sovereignty of God, for God is the guarantee that "all" He has chosen will come to Him for salvation. The idea of "gives me" is that every person chosen by God and drawn by God (v. 44) must be seen as a gift of the Father’s love to the Son. The Son receives each "love gift" (v. 37), holds on to each (v. 39), and will raise each to eternal glory (vv. 39, 40). No one chosen will be lost (see notes on Rom. 8:31–39). This saving purpose is the Father’s will which the Son will not fail to do perfectly (v. 38; cf. 4:34; 10:28, 29; 17:6, 12, 24).6
Jn 6 44 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day7
Jn 6 65 . 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”8
Jn 17 6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.9
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.10
24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.11
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
I want to just touch on the rest of the Gospels and in time we go back and unpack more
John 15 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.'
Jesus had to choose us. How can you miss this here.
John 15 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 12
Jesus is talking to his own. We are not part of the world because we somehow picked Jesus. No thats not what the word teaches here. Jesus made a choice did he not? It was not our idea to find Jesus it was him finding us. It is easy to go with the world and serve the world. It is hard to come to God and pick his life. So to think you could want to that is not right.
Later Shadman
1John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Thursday, February 22, 2007
Calvinism
Why did Bob Jones make school not open to the Blacks back in the old days? And now Jack Hyles college is also not allowing black folks in. Ok here is my role on this. If one EVER makes any comment to race on my site is banned forever and ever on this site. And I am going to expose you as far as I can including informing your pastor. Listen Bob Jones has racial things on it. Bob Jones at one time did not like the blacks into the place. Nor did they allow marriage. Alone Bob Jones is a bqad place and I am going to get into that some time and I have.
Well It is time for more information on my survey of the bible on calvinism
Is 44 “Yet hear me now, O Jacob My servant,
And Israel whom I have chosen.
2 Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you:
‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant;
And you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water on him who is thirsty,
And floods on the dry ground;
I will pour My Spirit on your descendants,
And My blessing on your offspring;1
Again a nation is chosen. God did this for nations. Why not save all the nations in the pld times?
Jer 1 4 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”2
Before God formed you God chose you to save you.
Mal 1 2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord.
“Yet you say, ‘In what way have You loved us?’
Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?”
Says the Lord.
“Yet Jacob I have loved;
3 But Esau I have hated,
And laid waste his mountains and his heritage
For the jackals of the wilderness.”3
One nation is a good blessed and the other is in a wilderness nothing. God picked and that is my case.
Matt 11 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
God shows he shows things to people and he hides things from others. Look it was good in your sight father. God did things for his glory and honor. But some are going to say this is not a salvation verse, then your toasted by the Lords words “the son reveals to who he wills” . Why is it that? Because Jesus selected the people he wants saved.
Matt 20 16 For many are called, but few chosen.”4
Matt 20 22 But Jesus answered and said, “You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?”
They said to Him, “We are able.”
23 So He said to them, “You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father.”5
God prepared who is going to sit by him in heaven. God also has selected also for the men to die like Jesus and for Jesus.
Matt 22 14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”6
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.7
There is a balance in this and we are going to get to it sometime later.
Matt 24 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.8
Who are the elect? The redeemed of the time. It is the ones God picked out to go into the salvation. Saved ones are Elect.
Mark 13 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.9
Who He choose? I am not placeing things there the Bible said it not me.
Luke 10 17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”10
WHEN WERE THE NAMES WRITEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE? I think it is before time began
Phil 4 2 I implore Euodia and I implore Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 3 And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.11
Heb 12 23 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.12
Rev 21 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.13
Rev 13 8 . 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.14
Note 13:8 Book of Life. See note on 3:5. Lamb slain. The Lord Jesus who died to purchase the salvation of those whom God had chosen was fulfilling an eternal plan. from the foundation of the world. According to God’s eternal, electing purpose before creation, the death of Christ seals the redemption of the elect forever (cf. Acts 2:23; 4:27,28). Antichrist can never take away the salvation of the elect. The eternal registry of the elect will never be altered, nor will the saved in the Antichrist’s day worship him.15
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
13The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
14The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
15John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
Well It is time for more information on my survey of the bible on calvinism
Is 44 “Yet hear me now, O Jacob My servant,
And Israel whom I have chosen.
2 Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you:
‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant;
And you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water on him who is thirsty,
And floods on the dry ground;
I will pour My Spirit on your descendants,
And My blessing on your offspring;1
Again a nation is chosen. God did this for nations. Why not save all the nations in the pld times?
Jer 1 4 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”2
Before God formed you God chose you to save you.
Mal 1 2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord.
“Yet you say, ‘In what way have You loved us?’
Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?”
Says the Lord.
“Yet Jacob I have loved;
3 But Esau I have hated,
And laid waste his mountains and his heritage
For the jackals of the wilderness.”3
One nation is a good blessed and the other is in a wilderness nothing. God picked and that is my case.
Matt 11 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
God shows he shows things to people and he hides things from others. Look it was good in your sight father. God did things for his glory and honor. But some are going to say this is not a salvation verse, then your toasted by the Lords words “the son reveals to who he wills” . Why is it that? Because Jesus selected the people he wants saved.
Matt 20 16 For many are called, but few chosen.”4
Matt 20 22 But Jesus answered and said, “You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?”
They said to Him, “We are able.”
23 So He said to them, “You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father.”5
God prepared who is going to sit by him in heaven. God also has selected also for the men to die like Jesus and for Jesus.
Matt 22 14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”6
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.7
There is a balance in this and we are going to get to it sometime later.
Matt 24 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.8
Who are the elect? The redeemed of the time. It is the ones God picked out to go into the salvation. Saved ones are Elect.
Mark 13 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.9
Who He choose? I am not placeing things there the Bible said it not me.
Luke 10 17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”10
WHEN WERE THE NAMES WRITEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE? I think it is before time began
Phil 4 2 I implore Euodia and I implore Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 3 And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.11
Heb 12 23 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.12
Rev 21 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.13
Rev 13 8 . 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.14
Note 13:8 Book of Life. See note on 3:5. Lamb slain. The Lord Jesus who died to purchase the salvation of those whom God had chosen was fulfilling an eternal plan. from the foundation of the world. According to God’s eternal, electing purpose before creation, the death of Christ seals the redemption of the elect forever (cf. Acts 2:23; 4:27,28). Antichrist can never take away the salvation of the elect. The eternal registry of the elect will never be altered, nor will the saved in the Antichrist’s day worship him.15
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
13The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
14The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
15John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
It is not good to say that one thing that many people have studied is a false thinking. I am going to keep showing you what I think. Calvinism is a hated thing but it had to be looked at honestly. God chose people and nations and that is going to keep being out in the path I am taking. It is not false teaching either. So if you want to think it is all I got to say is bible bible and bible. It has to be there where the passages and grammar is wrong. I want your feedback but I want deeper than just being a baptist or been taught this is false. I am making a case and until it is out I think people ought to just listen and bring meaninggful stuff.
More verses
1 sam 12 2 For the Lord will not forsake His people, for His great name’s sake, because it has pleased the Lord to make you His people. 23 Moreover, as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you; but I will teach you the good and the right way. 24 Only fear the Lord, and serve Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great things He has done for you.1
God made the people his. Did they choose God? No they sinned and God still kept them. God made the Jews his own. Jews were picked over all others.
1 kings 12 So the king did not listen to the people; for the turn of events was from the Lord, that He might fulfill His word, which the Lord had spoken by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.2
Turn of events were from the lord. When God spoke he does whatever he said he would. So when he said he is choosing in Eph that is what he did.
1 Kings 20 42 Then he said to him, “Thus says the Lord: ‘Because you have let slip out of your hand a man whom I appointed to utter destruction, therefore your life shall go for his life, and your people for his people.’ ”3
God apointed to utter destruction. God made some things for good and it is a fact God did not save everyone and he made some fit to never get saved and go to hell. \
2 Chr 6 5 ‘Since the day that I brought My people out of the land of Egypt, I have chosen no city from any tribe of Israel in which to build a house, that My name might be there, nor did I choose any man to be a ruler over My people Israel. 6 Yet I have chosen Jerusalem, that My name may be there, and I have chosen David to be over My people Israel.’ 7 Now it was in the heart of my father David to build a temple for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
God choose to dwell in one city. He did not dwell in China or North America. He choose one weak nation and he never made another one to go to. Even in sin the King was made David and God stayed there and forgave and kept the plan. God plans not mans plans people.
Job 23 13 “But He is unique, and who can make Him change?
And whatever His soul desires, that He does.
14 For He performs what is appointed for me,
And many such things are with Him.4
God does whatever he wants. Why is it that it is that man wants salvation and God is waiting for a choice of Man when God makes this work.
Psalms 33 12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord,
The people He has chosen as His own inheritance.5
God chose nations. Now I am going to take a rabbit trail. God did not chose our nation to be blessed. Why ought God pick us when we took to sin and made God nothing but a cuss word. No we did not honor Jesus in and of the founding documents. God took his hand off when we made the Gays ok and let them marry. It is so not ok to be a part of this movement. We took Him out of the schools and that is not good, it is a sad day when a teacher cannot lift Jesus up in the class room.
Ps 65 Blessed is the man You choose,
And cause to approach You,
That he may dwell in Your courts.
We shall be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Of Your holy temple.6
He chose and then he draws to his throne. Jesus draws you to his love and I am hoping you will response.
Psalms 78 67 Moreover He rejected the tent of Joseph,
And did not choose the tribe of Ephraim,
68 But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which He loved.
69 And He built His sanctuary like the heights,
Like the earth which He has established forever.
70 He also chose David His servant,
And took him from the sheepfolds;
71 From following the ewes that had young He brought him,
To shepherd Jacob His people,
And Israel His inheritance.
72 So he shepherded them according to the integrity of his heart,
And guided them by the skillfulness of his hands.7
Psalms 4 For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself,
Israel for His special treasure.8
God ______________ Jacob. Did Jacob come to God or did God came to Jacob?
Proverbs 4 The Lord has made all for Himself,
Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.9
Ok the wicked are made for a day of doom
later
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
More verses
1 sam 12 2 For the Lord will not forsake His people, for His great name’s sake, because it has pleased the Lord to make you His people. 23 Moreover, as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you; but I will teach you the good and the right way. 24 Only fear the Lord, and serve Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great things He has done for you.1
God made the people his. Did they choose God? No they sinned and God still kept them. God made the Jews his own. Jews were picked over all others.
1 kings 12 So the king did not listen to the people; for the turn of events was from the Lord, that He might fulfill His word, which the Lord had spoken by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat.2
Turn of events were from the lord. When God spoke he does whatever he said he would. So when he said he is choosing in Eph that is what he did.
1 Kings 20 42 Then he said to him, “Thus says the Lord: ‘Because you have let slip out of your hand a man whom I appointed to utter destruction, therefore your life shall go for his life, and your people for his people.’ ”3
God apointed to utter destruction. God made some things for good and it is a fact God did not save everyone and he made some fit to never get saved and go to hell. \
2 Chr 6 5 ‘Since the day that I brought My people out of the land of Egypt, I have chosen no city from any tribe of Israel in which to build a house, that My name might be there, nor did I choose any man to be a ruler over My people Israel. 6 Yet I have chosen Jerusalem, that My name may be there, and I have chosen David to be over My people Israel.’ 7 Now it was in the heart of my father David to build a temple for the name of the Lord God of Israel.
God choose to dwell in one city. He did not dwell in China or North America. He choose one weak nation and he never made another one to go to. Even in sin the King was made David and God stayed there and forgave and kept the plan. God plans not mans plans people.
Job 23 13 “But He is unique, and who can make Him change?
And whatever His soul desires, that He does.
14 For He performs what is appointed for me,
And many such things are with Him.4
God does whatever he wants. Why is it that it is that man wants salvation and God is waiting for a choice of Man when God makes this work.
Psalms 33 12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord,
The people He has chosen as His own inheritance.5
God chose nations. Now I am going to take a rabbit trail. God did not chose our nation to be blessed. Why ought God pick us when we took to sin and made God nothing but a cuss word. No we did not honor Jesus in and of the founding documents. God took his hand off when we made the Gays ok and let them marry. It is so not ok to be a part of this movement. We took Him out of the schools and that is not good, it is a sad day when a teacher cannot lift Jesus up in the class room.
Ps 65 Blessed is the man You choose,
And cause to approach You,
That he may dwell in Your courts.
We shall be satisfied with the goodness of Your house,
Of Your holy temple.6
He chose and then he draws to his throne. Jesus draws you to his love and I am hoping you will response.
Psalms 78 67 Moreover He rejected the tent of Joseph,
And did not choose the tribe of Ephraim,
68 But chose the tribe of Judah,
Mount Zion which He loved.
69 And He built His sanctuary like the heights,
Like the earth which He has established forever.
70 He also chose David His servant,
And took him from the sheepfolds;
71 From following the ewes that had young He brought him,
To shepherd Jacob His people,
And Israel His inheritance.
72 So he shepherded them according to the integrity of his heart,
And guided them by the skillfulness of his hands.7
Psalms 4 For the Lord has chosen Jacob for Himself,
Israel for His special treasure.8
God ______________ Jacob. Did Jacob come to God or did God came to Jacob?
Proverbs 4 The Lord has made all for Himself,
Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.9
Ok the wicked are made for a day of doom
later
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Monday, February 19, 2007
Shadism
I was told that it is not ok to expose leaders of churchs I do not agree with. I am not going to stop because so many of the men bash my men of the Lord and they need to be shown the truth. David Cloud is one we need to stop. One of the things they tend to not like is the topic of cavinism and I think for this season of lent I want to dig into it deep and see what the bible said about this. I realize it is not going to be easy to hit but I want to dig and see what the bible said on it. It might be a long time on this topic but I am going to take it. I am not going to respond to comments because I have a path I am going to take and I am taking my plan. Make comments but I am not going to respone until I want to. Maybe I will look at some of them on weekends. One thing I am not going to reason with people but I am going to present the bible and thats hopefully it. I know many are going to hit the but whatever I am running the page youre not.
I think the first thing I am going to do is to go into the bible and hit a term that begins the debate and that is chosen. Then I am going to go though the tulip things and then I am going to nail some sermons by reformed pastors. I want to list some bible passages on this tonight and maybe a few days to lay a case out.I got a lot (over 50 passages) to hit and list so it is going to be a lot of verses.
Lets start
Gen 21 12 But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. 13 Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.”1
A seed was going to become the nation GOD CHOOSE.
Ex 9 . 15 Now if I had stretched out My hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, then you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But indeed for this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth. 17 As yet you exalt yourself against My people in that you will not let them go. 2
God selects the people and he tells us why he did it. He has to show who He is and his glory. God is going to show his glory and he does it no matter what you pick. God had a will for the people and he used them for him and they were freed out of the plan of God
Ex 33 19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” 3
God plans his grace and compassion. He chooses who is graced and who is not
Deut 7 6 “For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. 7 The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples; 8 but because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.4
Holy because God wanted to show his grace and love. Not because they did anything but it was the plan. It was the Love of God that picked them. God is going to love people he choose to. Gods love is not because they are good.
Deut 10 5 The Lord delighted only in your fathers, to love them; and He chose their descendants after them, you above all peoples, as it is this day.5
Deut 4 37 And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them; and He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power, 38 driving out from before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is this day. 39 Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.6
Note why the choice. To know the Lord is God and there is no other. God used this to show he is God.
Deut 32 8 When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the Lord’s portion is His people;
Jacob is the place of His inheritance.7
Josh 11 20 20 For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might utterly destroy them, and that they might receive no mercy, but that He might destroy them, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
It said that God harden the heart. He planed to take out the people and he hardens hearts to do it.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
I think the first thing I am going to do is to go into the bible and hit a term that begins the debate and that is chosen. Then I am going to go though the tulip things and then I am going to nail some sermons by reformed pastors. I want to list some bible passages on this tonight and maybe a few days to lay a case out.I got a lot (over 50 passages) to hit and list so it is going to be a lot of verses.
Lets start
Gen 21 12 But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. 13 Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.”1
A seed was going to become the nation GOD CHOOSE.
Ex 9 . 15 Now if I had stretched out My hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, then you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But indeed for this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth. 17 As yet you exalt yourself against My people in that you will not let them go. 2
God selects the people and he tells us why he did it. He has to show who He is and his glory. God is going to show his glory and he does it no matter what you pick. God had a will for the people and he used them for him and they were freed out of the plan of God
Ex 33 19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” 3
God plans his grace and compassion. He chooses who is graced and who is not
Deut 7 6 “For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. 7 The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples; 8 but because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.4
Holy because God wanted to show his grace and love. Not because they did anything but it was the plan. It was the Love of God that picked them. God is going to love people he choose to. Gods love is not because they are good.
Deut 10 5 The Lord delighted only in your fathers, to love them; and He chose their descendants after them, you above all peoples, as it is this day.5
Deut 4 37 And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them; and He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power, 38 driving out from before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is this day. 39 Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.6
Note why the choice. To know the Lord is God and there is no other. God used this to show he is God.
Deut 32 8 When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the Lord’s portion is His people;
Jacob is the place of His inheritance.7
Josh 11 20 20 For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might utterly destroy them, and that they might receive no mercy, but that He might destroy them, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
It said that God harden the heart. He planed to take out the people and he hardens hearts to do it.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Sunday, February 18, 2007
I have been thinking about the life of Jack Hyles and his church in Hammond. I think he was not a good man for many things. He would ask the church to blindly trust him a lot. What a shame to have a female secatery and then have a door right to her and then deny that he was in sin with her. I see it in Grace church and think that is Pastored by a man that is into Hyles and takes the power to far. I also see it at other baptist places where the Pastor has to much power. Here in this area the 3 baptist church pastors fight each other and it is goofy. Pastor Mark out to say Pastor Campell is off and what is the deal. Pastor Mark is into he controls all you study and do. When I was there Mark had it that if you wanted to do a bible class it went though his office and he approved it. He also had time with me where he wanted to take my blog down because he was the one that has to teach the bible. Pastor C is ok with my blog yet he teaches things and does not have people go to him to say what they are reading. He is a Bob Jones man so he has some trends toward he is the boss.
One thing the men of God who are pastors they are solid men that love the Lord who have no moral failures, Both Pastors are strong in their love for Jesus and moral up right christ like living. I comend them both. I cannot say the same about Jack. He had some affairs and still people loved his preaching. I am not certain why he said some of the trash he did. He is king James only. He does not see the body of Jesus as all the ones saved and the baptists are the only part of the body. He claims that if you go on his bus he is going to take you to a ball game.
Stay out of the Jack Hyles church. If your Church is part of his cult leave. It is a insane man preaching things that makes me have to do things like this blog and expose them. I am going to expose things that are not good for the Lords work. I know it is not popular yet it is needed somewhere. I need to tell the body the truth of things like the Catholics and what they trust and believe. Why do I block folks? I did it because I am not going to have folks in a discussion I do not want to have. I know some of the things I might of said all of a faith might not agree with but I am not here to learn that faith I am exposing it, I took things from a web page that Macarthur said and they do not know Mac is one that spends time getting to know the bible and has done many things on it. Itr might be folks you thought what you said was right and it was off. And I do not want a to be nun to tell me about the faith I hold dear, it is not a good place to be and I cannot allow Lauren to get me to agree with her and have a friendship that is not part of the body. She had made a commitment to not post and she did and I am not here to allow that. Now getting a new name Lauren will not make it ok to come on my site and post. That I dealt with before and I am not allowing comments to run me I run them and allow them. I love Lauren but I have to do this my way.
Later
One thing the men of God who are pastors they are solid men that love the Lord who have no moral failures, Both Pastors are strong in their love for Jesus and moral up right christ like living. I comend them both. I cannot say the same about Jack. He had some affairs and still people loved his preaching. I am not certain why he said some of the trash he did. He is king James only. He does not see the body of Jesus as all the ones saved and the baptists are the only part of the body. He claims that if you go on his bus he is going to take you to a ball game.
Stay out of the Jack Hyles church. If your Church is part of his cult leave. It is a insane man preaching things that makes me have to do things like this blog and expose them. I am going to expose things that are not good for the Lords work. I know it is not popular yet it is needed somewhere. I need to tell the body the truth of things like the Catholics and what they trust and believe. Why do I block folks? I did it because I am not going to have folks in a discussion I do not want to have. I know some of the things I might of said all of a faith might not agree with but I am not here to learn that faith I am exposing it, I took things from a web page that Macarthur said and they do not know Mac is one that spends time getting to know the bible and has done many things on it. Itr might be folks you thought what you said was right and it was off. And I do not want a to be nun to tell me about the faith I hold dear, it is not a good place to be and I cannot allow Lauren to get me to agree with her and have a friendship that is not part of the body. She had made a commitment to not post and she did and I am not here to allow that. Now getting a new name Lauren will not make it ok to come on my site and post. That I dealt with before and I am not allowing comments to run me I run them and allow them. I love Lauren but I have to do this my way.
Later
Thursday, February 15, 2007
This and that on believeing
Ok Shane Yes I am blocking people and I need to because they were told not to talk on my blog and I meant it. I cannot allow folks to come in and just post sometimes and I am not going to. I know that I said that God does not love everyone. I ask does God love you and grant you heaven if you reject him. I think there is a point where one can reject Jesus and God no longer allows a salvation. I do not know where and when that is but it is going to happen. I say it again its not the ones God saved it is the fact God saved anyone. I also blocked because I felt the gal was to Catholic and I am not. Scary thing to have a person who is part of Rome who is the worst thing for the Gospel. They are seriously wrong and she kept coming and defending and someone might have the idea this church has truth in it. And talking down about Brother Macarthur is enough for me to nail this.
I want to thank Rudy for getting into the race to kick Hillery out. I am backing him right now. I think he is fit to lead. On Shawns show he said he wants to pick judges that are likely to overturn Roe and that is what we need. He cut tax 23 times as mayor. He fights crime and is going to give us a fight for the people who died. I also like his stand on getting folks out of the welfare plan and into the work world. It is the best thing for you to work. If you can get a job you ought to. If you kill you need to die and we need to fund this war we are in so they do not come back to kill us.
The book on John I am using is talking about the truth that one needs to believe in God. I want to record a few of the thoughts from the book. When you take on a belief from God you become the child of God, you are given life forever, you are freed from the judgment of God, You partake in life forever, you get the Spirit of God indwelling in you, you are freed from the devils work and you are given the power to work for God.
Jesus said that the gate to heaven is very small and narrow and only few get to go in to heaven. If you fail to obey this command you will end in hell. No zeal or good deed will ever replace any belief in Jesus. Do good and it will not save you but trust Jesus and your free. I am blamed for talking about hell tons on my blog. I rather would warn you about hell then give you hope in heaven because I think it is real place and folks are going to go there. I want you all to get out of a sinning life of false faiths and come to the only hope Jesus and his life given to you. Here are some reasons people do not trust. First they lack the information to trust. If your reading this you are not in that place. Second lack of weighing the facts about Jesus. Third people just have hard hearts and they really do not want to trust Jesus or they at one time did and the truth is Jesus shook them and they no longer need Jesus.
Next time we are going to look at one that did not know the Lord and how the Lord move in healing to save them
I want to thank Rudy for getting into the race to kick Hillery out. I am backing him right now. I think he is fit to lead. On Shawns show he said he wants to pick judges that are likely to overturn Roe and that is what we need. He cut tax 23 times as mayor. He fights crime and is going to give us a fight for the people who died. I also like his stand on getting folks out of the welfare plan and into the work world. It is the best thing for you to work. If you can get a job you ought to. If you kill you need to die and we need to fund this war we are in so they do not come back to kill us.
The book on John I am using is talking about the truth that one needs to believe in God. I want to record a few of the thoughts from the book. When you take on a belief from God you become the child of God, you are given life forever, you are freed from the judgment of God, You partake in life forever, you get the Spirit of God indwelling in you, you are freed from the devils work and you are given the power to work for God.
Jesus said that the gate to heaven is very small and narrow and only few get to go in to heaven. If you fail to obey this command you will end in hell. No zeal or good deed will ever replace any belief in Jesus. Do good and it will not save you but trust Jesus and your free. I am blamed for talking about hell tons on my blog. I rather would warn you about hell then give you hope in heaven because I think it is real place and folks are going to go there. I want you all to get out of a sinning life of false faiths and come to the only hope Jesus and his life given to you. Here are some reasons people do not trust. First they lack the information to trust. If your reading this you are not in that place. Second lack of weighing the facts about Jesus. Third people just have hard hearts and they really do not want to trust Jesus or they at one time did and the truth is Jesus shook them and they no longer need Jesus.
Next time we are going to look at one that did not know the Lord and how the Lord move in healing to save them
This and that on believeing
Ok Shane Yes I am blocking people and I need to because they were told not to talk on my blog and I meant it. I cannot allow folks to come in and just post sometimes and I am not going to. I know that I said that God does not love everyone. I ask does God love you and grant you heaven if you reject him. I think there is a point where one can reject Jesus and God no longer allows a salvation. I do not know where and when that is but it is going to happen. I say it again its not the ones God saved it is the fact God saved anyone. I also blocked because I felt the gal was to Catholic and I am not. Scary thing to have a person who is part of Rome who is the worst thing for the Gospel. They are seriously wrong and she kept coming and defending and someone might have the idea this church has truth in it. And talking down about Brother Macarthur is enough for me to nail this.
I want to thank Rudy for getting into the race to kick Hillery out. I am backing him right now. I think he is fit to lead. On Shawns show he said he wants to pick judges that are likely to overturn Roe and that is what we need. He cut tax 23 times as mayor. He fights crime and is going to give us a fight for the people who died. I also like his stand on getting folks out of the welfare plan and into the work world. It is the best thing for you to work. If you can get a job you ought to. If you kill you need to die and we need to fund this war we are in so they do not come back to kill us.
The book on John I am using is talking about the truth that one needs to believe in God. I want to record a few of the thoughts from the book. When you take on a belief from God you become the child of God, you are given life forever, you are freed from the judgment of God, You partake in life forever, you get the Spirit of God indwelling in you, you are freed from the devils work and you are given the power to work for God.
Jesus said that the gate to heaven is very small and narrow and only few get to go in to heaven. If you fail to obey this command you will end in hell. No zeal or good deed will ever replace any belief in Jesus. Do good and it will not save you but trust Jesus and your free. I am blamed for talking about hell tons on my blog. I rather would warn you about hell then give you hope in heaven because I think it is real place and folks are going to go there. I want you all to get out of a sinning life of false faiths and come to the only hope Jesus and his life given to you. Here are some reasons people do not trust. First they lack the information to trust. If your reading this you are not in that place. Second lack of weighing the facts about Jesus. Third people just have hard hearts and they really do not want to trust Jesus or they at one time did and the truth is Jesus shook them and they no longer need Jesus.
Next time we are going to look at one that did not know the Lord and how the Lord move in healing to save them
I want to thank Rudy for getting into the race to kick Hillery out. I am backing him right now. I think he is fit to lead. On Shawns show he said he wants to pick judges that are likely to overturn Roe and that is what we need. He cut tax 23 times as mayor. He fights crime and is going to give us a fight for the people who died. I also like his stand on getting folks out of the welfare plan and into the work world. It is the best thing for you to work. If you can get a job you ought to. If you kill you need to die and we need to fund this war we are in so they do not come back to kill us.
The book on John I am using is talking about the truth that one needs to believe in God. I want to record a few of the thoughts from the book. When you take on a belief from God you become the child of God, you are given life forever, you are freed from the judgment of God, You partake in life forever, you get the Spirit of God indwelling in you, you are freed from the devils work and you are given the power to work for God.
Jesus said that the gate to heaven is very small and narrow and only few get to go in to heaven. If you fail to obey this command you will end in hell. No zeal or good deed will ever replace any belief in Jesus. Do good and it will not save you but trust Jesus and your free. I am blamed for talking about hell tons on my blog. I rather would warn you about hell then give you hope in heaven because I think it is real place and folks are going to go there. I want you all to get out of a sinning life of false faiths and come to the only hope Jesus and his life given to you. Here are some reasons people do not trust. First they lack the information to trust. If your reading this you are not in that place. Second lack of weighing the facts about Jesus. Third people just have hard hearts and they really do not want to trust Jesus or they at one time did and the truth is Jesus shook them and they no longer need Jesus.
Next time we are going to look at one that did not know the Lord and how the Lord move in healing to save them
Labels: 2008 election, BIBLE, John 4, Rudy
Wednesday, February 14, 2007
Does God Love everyone? Ya sure he does. I do not think people in this world get a idea of the Love of God. Matter of fact I do not think every person is loved by God and I even think the Love the world thinks God has for them is not even part of it. First of all God made everything in the world and he called it good. But man is not good. He newer said of man this is good. He gave man a will and a freedom in the garden and that was to not do evil. But man did evil thus sin entered the man and God had to separate himself from man because sin had to be paid for. In time God had to give rules and laws and by them God made the case every man broke them. God said that man had no hope inside of himself. God set up a system to point to a person that man Jesus. God said if you break his laws something had to die before man could talk to God. We had to sacrifice things and the blood was put on the alter and them we could be forgiven.
In the system nothing could save man. Nothing could. Jesus had to come a live among us and paid the price by his bloody death and because he lived a perfect life he said to you all I paid your fine and all you need to do in accept it and repent and one could go to God. It actually was the Lord who has to come and inspire you to take the gift and repent.
Does God love everyone? In this land we live in many people go to churches that teach some pretty fun things when I think about it. Like give and your going to get millions of dollars. People get in to tv and see this preacher gots tons of money. Look at Mac Hammond, he has 3 homes, Or Pat on the 700 club. Pat is worth 1 billion and still demands cash from you. People give trillions to tv preachers and get this and that. Is the money needed? Some might be and much is not. God uses tons of cash given to him in the right way. But this junk about you getting a big blessing is not really the truth. I do not ask you not to give all you can for the Lords work because he blesses and honors you. He grants sunshine to every living person and the money you got in this land is tons and it is all from God. Ever dime we have is a gift for the blessing of God.
Does God love everyone?
John 4 39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed in Him because of the word of the woman who testified, “He told me all that I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans had come to Him, they urged Him to stay with them; and He stayed there two days. 41 And many more believed because of His own word.
42 Then they said to the woman, “Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world.”1
We go back to the book and we find the end of our stay in the town Jesus shared with the woman. Jesus knew everything this lady ever did and knew and yet she trusted in him and she I think got saved. And then this lady went and told everyone leaveing her pot. They wanted Jesus to just stay with them and teach and so his thing. After 2 days they still wanted Jesus and just more of him. I am so glad Jesus told me he is always with me and will not forsake me. I got more of Jesus and I want him more and more to show me how to deeply love him and serve him. Many trust Jesus after listening to him as God had given them the need to love him. And he does love us tons. Happy Love day folks and pass it on.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
In the system nothing could save man. Nothing could. Jesus had to come a live among us and paid the price by his bloody death and because he lived a perfect life he said to you all I paid your fine and all you need to do in accept it and repent and one could go to God. It actually was the Lord who has to come and inspire you to take the gift and repent.
Does God love everyone? In this land we live in many people go to churches that teach some pretty fun things when I think about it. Like give and your going to get millions of dollars. People get in to tv and see this preacher gots tons of money. Look at Mac Hammond, he has 3 homes, Or Pat on the 700 club. Pat is worth 1 billion and still demands cash from you. People give trillions to tv preachers and get this and that. Is the money needed? Some might be and much is not. God uses tons of cash given to him in the right way. But this junk about you getting a big blessing is not really the truth. I do not ask you not to give all you can for the Lords work because he blesses and honors you. He grants sunshine to every living person and the money you got in this land is tons and it is all from God. Ever dime we have is a gift for the blessing of God.
Does God love everyone?
John 4 39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed in Him because of the word of the woman who testified, “He told me all that I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans had come to Him, they urged Him to stay with them; and He stayed there two days. 41 And many more believed because of His own word.
42 Then they said to the woman, “Now we believe, not because of what you said, for we ourselves have heard Him and we know that this is indeed the Christ, the Savior of the world.”1
We go back to the book and we find the end of our stay in the town Jesus shared with the woman. Jesus knew everything this lady ever did and knew and yet she trusted in him and she I think got saved. And then this lady went and told everyone leaveing her pot. They wanted Jesus to just stay with them and teach and so his thing. After 2 days they still wanted Jesus and just more of him. I am so glad Jesus told me he is always with me and will not forsake me. I got more of Jesus and I want him more and more to show me how to deeply love him and serve him. Many trust Jesus after listening to him as God had given them the need to love him. And he does love us tons. Happy Love day folks and pass it on.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Tuesday, February 13, 2007
Be a sharer of the work of Jesus
John 4 34 Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work. 35 Do you not say, ‘There are still four months and then comes the harvest’? Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest! 36 And he who reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit for eternal life, that both he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. 37 For in this the saying is true: ‘One sows and another reaps.’ 38 I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored, and you have entered into their labors.”1
It is the duty of every saved christian to share the message of Jesus with all the people the Lord puts in their life. Here ought be the stuff we share.
1 Every man is a sinner when he is born.
2 The wage of the sinner is death and Hell forever.
3 Jesus came to pay in full on the cross the wage
4 You are saved ONLY when you turn away from your sin and turn to Jesus ALONE
5 If you turn to Jesus he will save you completely
In tonights passage Jesus is asking us to go out and start working hard for the harvest and tell our friends about Jesus and the Gospel. If you work in this your going to get wages in you life. In the bible we are not asked to look at the outside of a man but Jesus knows the hearts of man and he calls us to love everyone and live to be Jesus to everyone. As a Christian we are never ever to hate anyone, but we are called to love everyone and share Jesus with them. I need to go to confess some things because I plead guilt to hate at times. Our lifes are not ours when we make Jesus Lord they are his and we need to spend them on the work of the Lord.
In working for the Lord and on souls some are going to plant the seed and some are going to work on the seed and some are going to reap. Jesus does all the work on the saving but he uses people to share his Love and grace. In my life I saw people plant the news and Gods Love and then Jesus took the work and made me his in his time. It might be your watering the seed and the Lord might have one down the line that is going to share the thing the Lord used to save them. It might be many people are going to be used in ones heart to bring them to repent but it is important to know only the Lord is going to win the soul. I could list the people the Lord used but they did not save me the Love Jesus had for me saved me so I give Jesus all the praise and honor.
Jesus said a simular story in the book of Matthew.
Matt 9 35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”
Here is a thing we need to pray for and that is for missions and the work of Jesus to be done. Will you be one to do this work and go into the field and share the Love? I know you can commit to pray for more people to go out and share the things I showed in the first part of the entry, and you can share that with all your friends and tell them the news there is a way out of Hell and Jesus is ready to save your friends and you if you repent and trust in Jesus. I hope you are ready for this because look ar Anna who died at 39. Shocking but we are going to die. Please get Jesus today and know heaven is yours
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
It is the duty of every saved christian to share the message of Jesus with all the people the Lord puts in their life. Here ought be the stuff we share.
1 Every man is a sinner when he is born.
2 The wage of the sinner is death and Hell forever.
3 Jesus came to pay in full on the cross the wage
4 You are saved ONLY when you turn away from your sin and turn to Jesus ALONE
5 If you turn to Jesus he will save you completely
In tonights passage Jesus is asking us to go out and start working hard for the harvest and tell our friends about Jesus and the Gospel. If you work in this your going to get wages in you life. In the bible we are not asked to look at the outside of a man but Jesus knows the hearts of man and he calls us to love everyone and live to be Jesus to everyone. As a Christian we are never ever to hate anyone, but we are called to love everyone and share Jesus with them. I need to go to confess some things because I plead guilt to hate at times. Our lifes are not ours when we make Jesus Lord they are his and we need to spend them on the work of the Lord.
In working for the Lord and on souls some are going to plant the seed and some are going to work on the seed and some are going to reap. Jesus does all the work on the saving but he uses people to share his Love and grace. In my life I saw people plant the news and Gods Love and then Jesus took the work and made me his in his time. It might be your watering the seed and the Lord might have one down the line that is going to share the thing the Lord used to save them. It might be many people are going to be used in ones heart to bring them to repent but it is important to know only the Lord is going to win the soul. I could list the people the Lord used but they did not save me the Love Jesus had for me saved me so I give Jesus all the praise and honor.
Jesus said a simular story in the book of Matthew.
Matt 9 35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”
Here is a thing we need to pray for and that is for missions and the work of Jesus to be done. Will you be one to do this work and go into the field and share the Love? I know you can commit to pray for more people to go out and share the things I showed in the first part of the entry, and you can share that with all your friends and tell them the news there is a way out of Hell and Jesus is ready to save your friends and you if you repent and trust in Jesus. I hope you are ready for this because look ar Anna who died at 39. Shocking but we are going to die. Please get Jesus today and know heaven is yours
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Saturday, February 10, 2007
I am going to bed in 20 minutes but I want to talk about things on my mind. I am going to talk sports and political tonight because I can and maybe some bible at the end. First thing is this House speaker that needs this stupid plane. I do not think we need to give it to her. I am more that willing to get 10 tickets on a airline whenever she and her family want to go home and get r and r. But we are not going to give our cash to a plane that is not needed. I think we need to fund this war or get out, but getting out means we need to double our overall homeland bug jet.
I am not happy as a Twins fan that we are not going to pay the mvp of the AL the cash he ought to have. 5 million a year is a good starting place. Y ought we pay any less. I mean it might mean we pay more at the box office. If your going to be a good club and we are we need to pay a good price for a game and go to the ball games. We could all use more games in our life huh?
Mac Hammond of the church called Living word is in a bit of trouble with the IRS. Seems like he has a few homes and he is using the church to fly around the nation. It is a shame because people are buying into a false thing and that is that Jesus wants to bless his people and make them rich. I do not think this is a good thing to preach to folks in this day. We are not called to be rich and make cash we are called to suffer for our faith and to sell all we have and give to the poor.
Read this part of what the star tribune said
"I think it's important that I not be embarrassed about the increase the Lord does bring me," Hammond said. "One of the things I think has kept Christianity from being as effective as it could be is the idea that the clergy has to be poor. The Bible doesn't say that."
Mac your off the marl. Not only do you not preach the truth you got it all wrong. The bible said that a man came to Jesus and asked what he needed to do for the kingdom. Jesus said go see all you have and give to the poor and then your going to find salvation. And a ruler in Luke 19 did this. He gave half his goods and paid back the money he owes. Mac you take all the money and teach things about it that are not right. Matter of fact our richs as christians is for the gospel. Not for your Jet and not for a condo in Florda. I would not give a cent to Living Word or any book your going to sell. Look at a good place and that is Grace To You. THEY GIVE MANY THINGS OUT FREE AND THE LORD IS BLESSING THE SOCKS OFF OF GRACE.
So why do I nail you Hammond. I do not like you breaking the Law and the IRS showing your faith to not be good. Jesus is not being shown here in a good light. I see it in many places the church is falling and it is not a good witness to get people saved. We need to get out there and share the truth and live above reproch and in the light of the time we live in I think Pastors failing means the end is near. Man we need to go out and share Jesus and get out of the ways of the world. Pastor Hammond time to sell all you have and live as if it does not matter. I think we need a pastor to make this the cry of his heart.
2tim Preach the Word
4 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Make this the call of your heart pastors. It is the thing I am going to do on my page and blog. I am going to preach the word and not a creed or a lie. It is the word alone that is going to change life and make me fit foere heaven. I know we are in a time where the Gospel is bring watered down or mocked by the people within so called Christianity. Catholics are perverting it by adding to the bible. Priests mock the finished work of Jesus.
Here is the proof in the bible they are worng in the mass/
Heb 10 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,
16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.1
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
I am not happy as a Twins fan that we are not going to pay the mvp of the AL the cash he ought to have. 5 million a year is a good starting place. Y ought we pay any less. I mean it might mean we pay more at the box office. If your going to be a good club and we are we need to pay a good price for a game and go to the ball games. We could all use more games in our life huh?
Mac Hammond of the church called Living word is in a bit of trouble with the IRS. Seems like he has a few homes and he is using the church to fly around the nation. It is a shame because people are buying into a false thing and that is that Jesus wants to bless his people and make them rich. I do not think this is a good thing to preach to folks in this day. We are not called to be rich and make cash we are called to suffer for our faith and to sell all we have and give to the poor.
Read this part of what the star tribune said
"I think it's important that I not be embarrassed about the increase the Lord does bring me," Hammond said. "One of the things I think has kept Christianity from being as effective as it could be is the idea that the clergy has to be poor. The Bible doesn't say that."
Mac your off the marl. Not only do you not preach the truth you got it all wrong. The bible said that a man came to Jesus and asked what he needed to do for the kingdom. Jesus said go see all you have and give to the poor and then your going to find salvation. And a ruler in Luke 19 did this. He gave half his goods and paid back the money he owes. Mac you take all the money and teach things about it that are not right. Matter of fact our richs as christians is for the gospel. Not for your Jet and not for a condo in Florda. I would not give a cent to Living Word or any book your going to sell. Look at a good place and that is Grace To You. THEY GIVE MANY THINGS OUT FREE AND THE LORD IS BLESSING THE SOCKS OFF OF GRACE.
So why do I nail you Hammond. I do not like you breaking the Law and the IRS showing your faith to not be good. Jesus is not being shown here in a good light. I see it in many places the church is falling and it is not a good witness to get people saved. We need to get out there and share the truth and live above reproch and in the light of the time we live in I think Pastors failing means the end is near. Man we need to go out and share Jesus and get out of the ways of the world. Pastor Hammond time to sell all you have and live as if it does not matter. I think we need a pastor to make this the cry of his heart.
2tim Preach the Word
4 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
Make this the call of your heart pastors. It is the thing I am going to do on my page and blog. I am going to preach the word and not a creed or a lie. It is the word alone that is going to change life and make me fit foere heaven. I know we are in a time where the Gospel is bring watered down or mocked by the people within so called Christianity. Catholics are perverting it by adding to the bible. Priests mock the finished work of Jesus.
Here is the proof in the bible they are worng in the mass/
Heb 10 11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.
15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,
16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.1
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Labels: BIBLE, current event
Thursday, February 08, 2007
John 4 Woman said Jesus is God
One thing I am thinking rightnow is Grace. Grace is so rich and Gods Grace is free and the thing is God is withholding what we deserve to have. Listen if we got what we really deserve God sends you to hell on your first sin forever with no hope. Gods grace is in Jesus alone and it is so rich and free. Jesus suffered so long for your sin and alone he forgives it and grants you grace.
Bible lession
John 4 27 And at this point His disciples came, and they marveled that He talked with a woman; yet no one said, “What do You seek?” or, “Why are You talking with her?”
I am working on the account of the woman at the well. Jesus is talking to her as a woman and one the Jews of the day thought was a waste of time to talk to. Jesus shows here the Good News is for everyone and even those outside of the Jewish faith. Look at a passage on this
Is 5920 “The Redeemer will come to Zion,
And to those who turn from transgression in Jacob,”
Says the Lord.
21 “As for Me,” says the Lord, “this is My covenant with them: My Spirit who is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth, shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants’ descendants,” says the Lord, “from this time and forevermore.”
The Gentiles Bless Zion
60 Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the Lord will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
3 The Gentiles shall come to your light,
And kings to the brightness of your rising.1
Jesus is the message and in the OT Zion is the world. Also note verse 2 where the earth is going to have the Glory of the Lord preached to them and also the Gentiles are going to see the light of the Lord. In the time this passage was written this was not heard of because God had the Jews and no other people in his world in the OT. So the one point here is the Gospel of Jesus is for the entire world. That is your saved by grace ALONE thought faith ALONE in Jesus ALONE. I do need to be brash and very clear in this age because folks are perverting this truth. As I said last time.
28 The woman then left her waterpot, went her way into the city, and said to the men, 29 “Come, see a Man who told me all things that I ever did. Could this be the Christ?” 30 Then they went out of the city and came to Him.
So here is the response of the Lady. She goes out and tells the people she knows. A thing here makes this seem all the more real and that is she left her pots. I do not make symbolism here because I think that is not right, the text is just real. She goes and tells everyone he is told here everything about her life and how he must be a God. She has went on the stand in the courtroom and said what Jesus did for her and how he must be the Messiah.
God said it
John the baptist said it
The wedding shows it
Andrew and Peter shows it
Nic heard this (and He did not take it) Jesus said it
Now a woman said this is true.
More and more stuff to see Jesus is God and we need him to save us
ta ta
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Bible lession
John 4 27 And at this point His disciples came, and they marveled that He talked with a woman; yet no one said, “What do You seek?” or, “Why are You talking with her?”
I am working on the account of the woman at the well. Jesus is talking to her as a woman and one the Jews of the day thought was a waste of time to talk to. Jesus shows here the Good News is for everyone and even those outside of the Jewish faith. Look at a passage on this
Is 5920 “The Redeemer will come to Zion,
And to those who turn from transgression in Jacob,”
Says the Lord.
21 “As for Me,” says the Lord, “this is My covenant with them: My Spirit who is upon you, and My words which I have put in your mouth, shall not depart from your mouth, nor from the mouth of your descendants, nor from the mouth of your descendants’ descendants,” says the Lord, “from this time and forevermore.”
The Gentiles Bless Zion
60 Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
2 For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the Lord will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
3 The Gentiles shall come to your light,
And kings to the brightness of your rising.1
Jesus is the message and in the OT Zion is the world. Also note verse 2 where the earth is going to have the Glory of the Lord preached to them and also the Gentiles are going to see the light of the Lord. In the time this passage was written this was not heard of because God had the Jews and no other people in his world in the OT. So the one point here is the Gospel of Jesus is for the entire world. That is your saved by grace ALONE thought faith ALONE in Jesus ALONE. I do need to be brash and very clear in this age because folks are perverting this truth. As I said last time.
28 The woman then left her waterpot, went her way into the city, and said to the men, 29 “Come, see a Man who told me all things that I ever did. Could this be the Christ?” 30 Then they went out of the city and came to Him.
So here is the response of the Lady. She goes out and tells the people she knows. A thing here makes this seem all the more real and that is she left her pots. I do not make symbolism here because I think that is not right, the text is just real. She goes and tells everyone he is told here everything about her life and how he must be a God. She has went on the stand in the courtroom and said what Jesus did for her and how he must be the Messiah.
God said it
John the baptist said it
The wedding shows it
Andrew and Peter shows it
Nic heard this (and He did not take it) Jesus said it
Now a woman said this is true.
More and more stuff to see Jesus is God and we need him to save us
ta ta
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
