Sunday, February 25, 2007
More on Calvin
I do know why Tim has a problem with the Calvin thing. It has to do with the great commission and perhaps the command Jesus left us with. I say this that Calvinism is the reason we need to do more. Jesus command is all we need to have to get out and share Jesus and do all we can to share Jesus. We ought to make our money the Lords, send billions out to the work of converting the lost and send out people to the people who do not know Jesus. It is our job to convert this world from sin. So do not allow my study to alter your giving or working for the Lord. Every one out there converting people with truth are helping in Jesus work. I am not talking about some of the men who are sinning and have less than bible like honor in their life's. Bob Jones who has no love for black people and Jack Hyles and his less than good testimony. Note they hate this doctrine and they are both less than fit?
As for Israel being the elect in mattew that is not right. If it is debates rage on this issue. I want you kids to know that Bro Tim is on the other side of a major debate and Tim is it ok for you to just call me a false teacher when this is not a issue solved. Mathew 22 14 Macarthur notes this. I know your not a fan of John Macarthur but I think this note in his bible is right until you show me other wise:
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.1
Lets go back to the study and place more proof
Luke 8 10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that
‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’2
Jesus hides the kingdom from the nation of Israel. Matter of truth the Lord hides it from all unsaved people. Israel is no longer the only nation Jesus is giving the truth to, the church is the new plan of Jesus. We can nail that a ton and I will wait. I want you to see the concept here of Jesus that he is hiding truth and that friends is key to election.
Luke 10 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”3
Names in book of life mean there is a book of life and I went over that this is a pre written book
Luke 18 6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”4
This is not the people of the old in this the elect are selected people saved. It might be the folks saved by Jesus but they are referred to as the elect.
Here is some Greek on the word Elect
1588 eklektos { ek-lek-tos’}
) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
1a2) the Messiah in called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians5
Lets move on
John 6 . 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me. This verse emphasizes the sovereign will of God in the selection of those who come to come to Him for salvation (cf. vv. 44, 65; 17:6, 12, 24). The Father has predestined those who would be saved (see notes on Rom. 8:29, 30; Eph. 1:3–6; 1 Pet. 1:2). The absolute sovereignty of God is the basis of Jesus’ confidence in the success of His mission (see note on v. 40; cf. Phil. 1:6). The security of salvation rests in the sovereignty of God, for God is the guarantee that "all" He has chosen will come to Him for salvation. The idea of "gives me" is that every person chosen by God and drawn by God (v. 44) must be seen as a gift of the Father’s love to the Son. The Son receives each "love gift" (v. 37), holds on to each (v. 39), and will raise each to eternal glory (vv. 39, 40). No one chosen will be lost (see notes on Rom. 8:31–39). This saving purpose is the Father’s will which the Son will not fail to do perfectly (v. 38; cf. 4:34; 10:28, 29; 17:6, 12, 24).6
Jn 6 44 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day7
Jn 6 65 . 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”8
Jn 17 6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.9
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.10
24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.11
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
I want to just touch on the rest of the Gospels and in time we go back and unpack more
John 15 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.'
Jesus had to choose us. How can you miss this here.
John 15 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 12
Jesus is talking to his own. We are not part of the world because we somehow picked Jesus. No thats not what the word teaches here. Jesus made a choice did he not? It was not our idea to find Jesus it was him finding us. It is easy to go with the world and serve the world. It is hard to come to God and pick his life. So to think you could want to that is not right.
Later Shadman
1John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
As for Israel being the elect in mattew that is not right. If it is debates rage on this issue. I want you kids to know that Bro Tim is on the other side of a major debate and Tim is it ok for you to just call me a false teacher when this is not a issue solved. Mathew 22 14 Macarthur notes this. I know your not a fan of John Macarthur but I think this note in his bible is right until you show me other wise:
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.1
Lets go back to the study and place more proof
Luke 8 10 And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that
‘Seeing they may not see,
And hearing they may not understand.’2
Jesus hides the kingdom from the nation of Israel. Matter of truth the Lord hides it from all unsaved people. Israel is no longer the only nation Jesus is giving the truth to, the church is the new plan of Jesus. We can nail that a ton and I will wait. I want you to see the concept here of Jesus that he is hiding truth and that friends is key to election.
Luke 10 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”3
Names in book of life mean there is a book of life and I went over that this is a pre written book
Luke 18 6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said. 7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them? 8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”4
This is not the people of the old in this the elect are selected people saved. It might be the folks saved by Jesus but they are referred to as the elect.
Here is some Greek on the word Elect
1588 eklektos { ek-lek-tos’}
) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called “chosen or elect” of God
1a2) the Messiah in called “elect”, as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians5
Lets move on
John 6 . 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
6:37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me. This verse emphasizes the sovereign will of God in the selection of those who come to come to Him for salvation (cf. vv. 44, 65; 17:6, 12, 24). The Father has predestined those who would be saved (see notes on Rom. 8:29, 30; Eph. 1:3–6; 1 Pet. 1:2). The absolute sovereignty of God is the basis of Jesus’ confidence in the success of His mission (see note on v. 40; cf. Phil. 1:6). The security of salvation rests in the sovereignty of God, for God is the guarantee that "all" He has chosen will come to Him for salvation. The idea of "gives me" is that every person chosen by God and drawn by God (v. 44) must be seen as a gift of the Father’s love to the Son. The Son receives each "love gift" (v. 37), holds on to each (v. 39), and will raise each to eternal glory (vv. 39, 40). No one chosen will be lost (see notes on Rom. 8:31–39). This saving purpose is the Father’s will which the Son will not fail to do perfectly (v. 38; cf. 4:34; 10:28, 29; 17:6, 12, 24).6
Jn 6 44 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day7
Jn 6 65 . 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”8
Jn 17 6 “I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.9
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.10
24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.11
40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
I want to just touch on the rest of the Gospels and in time we go back and unpack more
John 15 16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.'
Jesus had to choose us. How can you miss this here.
John 15 19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. 12
Jesus is talking to his own. We are not part of the world because we somehow picked Jesus. No thats not what the word teaches here. Jesus made a choice did he not? It was not our idea to find Jesus it was him finding us. It is easy to go with the world and serve the world. It is hard to come to God and pick his life. So to think you could want to that is not right.
Later Shadman
1John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5Enhanced Strong’s Lexicon, (Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.) 1995.
6John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Thursday, February 22, 2007
Calvinism
Why did Bob Jones make school not open to the Blacks back in the old days? And now Jack Hyles college is also not allowing black folks in. Ok here is my role on this. If one EVER makes any comment to race on my site is banned forever and ever on this site. And I am going to expose you as far as I can including informing your pastor. Listen Bob Jones has racial things on it. Bob Jones at one time did not like the blacks into the place. Nor did they allow marriage. Alone Bob Jones is a bqad place and I am going to get into that some time and I have.
Well It is time for more information on my survey of the bible on calvinism
Is 44 “Yet hear me now, O Jacob My servant,
And Israel whom I have chosen.
2 Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you:
‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant;
And you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water on him who is thirsty,
And floods on the dry ground;
I will pour My Spirit on your descendants,
And My blessing on your offspring;1
Again a nation is chosen. God did this for nations. Why not save all the nations in the pld times?
Jer 1 4 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”2
Before God formed you God chose you to save you.
Mal 1 2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord.
“Yet you say, ‘In what way have You loved us?’
Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?”
Says the Lord.
“Yet Jacob I have loved;
3 But Esau I have hated,
And laid waste his mountains and his heritage
For the jackals of the wilderness.”3
One nation is a good blessed and the other is in a wilderness nothing. God picked and that is my case.
Matt 11 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
God shows he shows things to people and he hides things from others. Look it was good in your sight father. God did things for his glory and honor. But some are going to say this is not a salvation verse, then your toasted by the Lords words “the son reveals to who he wills” . Why is it that? Because Jesus selected the people he wants saved.
Matt 20 16 For many are called, but few chosen.”4
Matt 20 22 But Jesus answered and said, “You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?”
They said to Him, “We are able.”
23 So He said to them, “You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father.”5
God prepared who is going to sit by him in heaven. God also has selected also for the men to die like Jesus and for Jesus.
Matt 22 14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”6
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.7
There is a balance in this and we are going to get to it sometime later.
Matt 24 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.8
Who are the elect? The redeemed of the time. It is the ones God picked out to go into the salvation. Saved ones are Elect.
Mark 13 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.9
Who He choose? I am not placeing things there the Bible said it not me.
Luke 10 17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”10
WHEN WERE THE NAMES WRITEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE? I think it is before time began
Phil 4 2 I implore Euodia and I implore Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 3 And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.11
Heb 12 23 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.12
Rev 21 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.13
Rev 13 8 . 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.14
Note 13:8 Book of Life. See note on 3:5. Lamb slain. The Lord Jesus who died to purchase the salvation of those whom God had chosen was fulfilling an eternal plan. from the foundation of the world. According to God’s eternal, electing purpose before creation, the death of Christ seals the redemption of the elect forever (cf. Acts 2:23; 4:27,28). Antichrist can never take away the salvation of the elect. The eternal registry of the elect will never be altered, nor will the saved in the Antichrist’s day worship him.15
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
13The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
14The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
15John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
Well It is time for more information on my survey of the bible on calvinism
Is 44 “Yet hear me now, O Jacob My servant,
And Israel whom I have chosen.
2 Thus says the Lord who made you
And formed you from the womb, who will help you:
‘Fear not, O Jacob My servant;
And you, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
3 For I will pour water on him who is thirsty,
And floods on the dry ground;
I will pour My Spirit on your descendants,
And My blessing on your offspring;1
Again a nation is chosen. God did this for nations. Why not save all the nations in the pld times?
Jer 1 4 Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you;
Before you were born I sanctified you;
I ordained you a prophet to the nations.”2
Before God formed you God chose you to save you.
Mal 1 2 “I have loved you,” says the Lord.
“Yet you say, ‘In what way have You loved us?’
Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?”
Says the Lord.
“Yet Jacob I have loved;
3 But Esau I have hated,
And laid waste his mountains and his heritage
For the jackals of the wilderness.”3
One nation is a good blessed and the other is in a wilderness nothing. God picked and that is my case.
Matt 11 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
God shows he shows things to people and he hides things from others. Look it was good in your sight father. God did things for his glory and honor. But some are going to say this is not a salvation verse, then your toasted by the Lords words “the son reveals to who he wills” . Why is it that? Because Jesus selected the people he wants saved.
Matt 20 16 For many are called, but few chosen.”4
Matt 20 22 But Jesus answered and said, “You do not know what you ask. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?”
They said to Him, “We are able.”
23 So He said to them, “You will indeed drink My cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with; but to sit on My right hand and on My left is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it is prepared by My Father.”5
God prepared who is going to sit by him in heaven. God also has selected also for the men to die like Jesus and for Jesus.
Matt 22 14 “For many are called, but few are chosen.”6
22:14 many are called, but few are chosen. The call spoken of here is sometimes referred to as the “general call” (or the “external” call)—a summons to repentance and faith that is inherent in the gospel message. This call extends to all who hear the gospel. “Many” hear it; “few” respond (see the many-few comparison in 7:13, 14). Those who respond are the “chosen,” the elect. In the Pauline writings, the word “call” usually refers to God’s irresistible calling extended to the elect alone (Rom. 8:30)—known as the “effectual call” (or the “internal” call). The effectual call is the supernatural drawing of God which Jesus speaks of in John 6:44. Here a general call is in view, and this call extends to all who hear the gospel—this call is the great “whosoever will” of the gospel (cf. Rev. 22:17). Here, then, is the proper balance between human responsibility and divine sovereignty: the “called” who reject the invitation do so willingly, and therefore their exclusion from the kingdom is perfectly just. The “chosen” enter the kingdom only because of the grace of God in choosing and drawing them.7
There is a balance in this and we are going to get to it sometime later.
Matt 24 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.8
Who are the elect? The redeemed of the time. It is the ones God picked out to go into the salvation. Saved ones are Elect.
Mark 13 20 And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.9
Who He choose? I am not placeing things there the Bible said it not me.
Luke 10 17 Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”10
WHEN WERE THE NAMES WRITEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE? I think it is before time began
Phil 4 2 I implore Euodia and I implore Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord. 3 And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.11
Heb 12 23 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.12
Rev 21 27 But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.13
Rev 13 8 . 7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.14
Note 13:8 Book of Life. See note on 3:5. Lamb slain. The Lord Jesus who died to purchase the salvation of those whom God had chosen was fulfilling an eternal plan. from the foundation of the world. According to God’s eternal, electing purpose before creation, the death of Christ seals the redemption of the elect forever (cf. Acts 2:23; 4:27,28). Antichrist can never take away the salvation of the elect. The eternal registry of the elect will never be altered, nor will the saved in the Antichrist’s day worship him.15
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
8The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
9The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
10The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
11The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
12The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
13The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
14The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
15John F. MacArthur, Jr., The MacArthur Study Bible, (Dallas: Word Publishing) 1997.
Monday, February 19, 2007
Shadism
I was told that it is not ok to expose leaders of churchs I do not agree with. I am not going to stop because so many of the men bash my men of the Lord and they need to be shown the truth. David Cloud is one we need to stop. One of the things they tend to not like is the topic of cavinism and I think for this season of lent I want to dig into it deep and see what the bible said about this. I realize it is not going to be easy to hit but I want to dig and see what the bible said on it. It might be a long time on this topic but I am going to take it. I am not going to respond to comments because I have a path I am going to take and I am taking my plan. Make comments but I am not going to respone until I want to. Maybe I will look at some of them on weekends. One thing I am not going to reason with people but I am going to present the bible and thats hopefully it. I know many are going to hit the but whatever I am running the page youre not.
I think the first thing I am going to do is to go into the bible and hit a term that begins the debate and that is chosen. Then I am going to go though the tulip things and then I am going to nail some sermons by reformed pastors. I want to list some bible passages on this tonight and maybe a few days to lay a case out.I got a lot (over 50 passages) to hit and list so it is going to be a lot of verses.
Lets start
Gen 21 12 But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. 13 Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.”1
A seed was going to become the nation GOD CHOOSE.
Ex 9 . 15 Now if I had stretched out My hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, then you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But indeed for this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth. 17 As yet you exalt yourself against My people in that you will not let them go. 2
God selects the people and he tells us why he did it. He has to show who He is and his glory. God is going to show his glory and he does it no matter what you pick. God had a will for the people and he used them for him and they were freed out of the plan of God
Ex 33 19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” 3
God plans his grace and compassion. He chooses who is graced and who is not
Deut 7 6 “For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. 7 The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples; 8 but because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.4
Holy because God wanted to show his grace and love. Not because they did anything but it was the plan. It was the Love of God that picked them. God is going to love people he choose to. Gods love is not because they are good.
Deut 10 5 The Lord delighted only in your fathers, to love them; and He chose their descendants after them, you above all peoples, as it is this day.5
Deut 4 37 And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them; and He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power, 38 driving out from before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is this day. 39 Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.6
Note why the choice. To know the Lord is God and there is no other. God used this to show he is God.
Deut 32 8 When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the Lord’s portion is His people;
Jacob is the place of His inheritance.7
Josh 11 20 20 For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might utterly destroy them, and that they might receive no mercy, but that He might destroy them, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
It said that God harden the heart. He planed to take out the people and he hardens hearts to do it.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
I think the first thing I am going to do is to go into the bible and hit a term that begins the debate and that is chosen. Then I am going to go though the tulip things and then I am going to nail some sermons by reformed pastors. I want to list some bible passages on this tonight and maybe a few days to lay a case out.I got a lot (over 50 passages) to hit and list so it is going to be a lot of verses.
Lets start
Gen 21 12 But God said to Abraham, “Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called. 13 Yet I will also make a nation of the son of the bondwoman, because he is your seed.”1
A seed was going to become the nation GOD CHOOSE.
Ex 9 . 15 Now if I had stretched out My hand and struck you and your people with pestilence, then you would have been cut off from the earth. 16 But indeed for this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth. 17 As yet you exalt yourself against My people in that you will not let them go. 2
God selects the people and he tells us why he did it. He has to show who He is and his glory. God is going to show his glory and he does it no matter what you pick. God had a will for the people and he used them for him and they were freed out of the plan of God
Ex 33 19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” 3
God plans his grace and compassion. He chooses who is graced and who is not
Deut 7 6 “For you are a holy people to the Lord your God; the Lord your God has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. 7 The Lord did not set His love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples; 8 but because the Lord loves you, and because He would keep the oath which He swore to your fathers, the Lord has brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you from the house of bondage, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.4
Holy because God wanted to show his grace and love. Not because they did anything but it was the plan. It was the Love of God that picked them. God is going to love people he choose to. Gods love is not because they are good.
Deut 10 5 The Lord delighted only in your fathers, to love them; and He chose their descendants after them, you above all peoples, as it is this day.5
Deut 4 37 And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their descendants after them; and He brought you out of Egypt with His Presence, with His mighty power, 38 driving out from before you nations greater and mightier than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance, as it is this day. 39 Therefore know this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord Himself is God in heaven above and on the earth beneath; there is no other.6
Note why the choice. To know the Lord is God and there is no other. God used this to show he is God.
Deut 32 8 When the Most High divided their inheritance to the nations,
When He separated the sons of Adam,
He set the boundaries of the peoples
According to the number of the children of Israel.
9 For the Lord’s portion is His people;
Jacob is the place of His inheritance.7
Josh 11 20 20 For it was of the Lord to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might utterly destroy them, and that they might receive no mercy, but that He might destroy them, as the Lord had commanded Moses.
It said that God harden the heart. He planed to take out the people and he hardens hearts to do it.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
7The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
