Sunday, April 29, 2007
Jesus is Lord
If your a racist in any way heaven is not for you. Jesus was not ojk with it and I have a alsolute no racism policy. If you are racist in any way we are no longer friends and I trust your soul is in hell forever unless you repent of this evil insane crime. That means if the people of different races want to date they are allowed to because love has no color. I hate anyone who is racial and does not leave it alone. Jesus is not a white man and if you think he is see you later. Please if you hold anything whatsoever racist inform me and I want you to know I am not going to trust you with Gods word and teaching it and I am not honoring you if you take Jesus and make him king and have any racial thoughts.
Here is a good place to see the wacky IBF at work.
http://fbchbreadandcircuses.blogspot.com
Ok enough fun for tonight as I also am working in the bible to bring it to life for us and I need to do it all the time.
For a few nights I am going to talk about some of the witess to the Lord Jesus being the son of God. I want to hit the deity of Jesus and that means the fact Jesus is God. He has all of God in him on earth. On the cross Jesus died and God died for your sins. If you do not get this right in life your not right about Jesus. Now I could do a 30 day thing on this and I might but I really need to do John and perhaps a seies will come soon on this topic.
John 5 31 “If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. 32 There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me is true. 33 You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. 34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved. 35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 1
John the Baptist is one that knew that Jesus was the Son of God and he had the proof of what he saw at the baptism of Jesus. In the baptism Jesus came out of the water and the people saw a dove come down and a voice of God and it said THIS IS MY SON IN WHO I AM WELL PLEASED. In MATT 17 GOD said that Jesus is his son and we are to listen to him. (another witness of the Lord God). John also had said in the book that Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes the sin of the world. John also sent people to see what Jesus was doing and to ask Jesus is he was God and Jesus said to tell John the things that Jesus was doing. Now the reason Jesus was giving the 5 witness to his work was to show the Jews the truth. Here is a passage in the old testament that Jesus is fulfilling.
Dt 17 6 Whoever is deserving of death shall be put to death on the testimony of two or three witnesses; he shall not be put to death on the testimony of one witness.2
Jesus was about the die for us and they had to have the truth on who he is and was. We need to trust the bible the Jesus is who he said and we can because of Johns testimony to this truth
Here is a good place to see the wacky IBF at work.
http://fbchbreadandcircuses.blogspot.com
Ok enough fun for tonight as I also am working in the bible to bring it to life for us and I need to do it all the time.
For a few nights I am going to talk about some of the witess to the Lord Jesus being the son of God. I want to hit the deity of Jesus and that means the fact Jesus is God. He has all of God in him on earth. On the cross Jesus died and God died for your sins. If you do not get this right in life your not right about Jesus. Now I could do a 30 day thing on this and I might but I really need to do John and perhaps a seies will come soon on this topic.
John 5 31 “If I bear witness of Myself, My witness is not true. 32 There is another who bears witness of Me, and I know that the witness which He witnesses of Me is true. 33 You have sent to John, and he has borne witness to the truth. 34 Yet I do not receive testimony from man, but I say these things that you may be saved. 35 He was the burning and shining lamp, and you were willing for a time to rejoice in his light. 1
John the Baptist is one that knew that Jesus was the Son of God and he had the proof of what he saw at the baptism of Jesus. In the baptism Jesus came out of the water and the people saw a dove come down and a voice of God and it said THIS IS MY SON IN WHO I AM WELL PLEASED. In MATT 17 GOD said that Jesus is his son and we are to listen to him. (another witness of the Lord God). John also had said in the book that Jesus is the Lamb of God that takes the sin of the world. John also sent people to see what Jesus was doing and to ask Jesus is he was God and Jesus said to tell John the things that Jesus was doing. Now the reason Jesus was giving the 5 witness to his work was to show the Jews the truth. Here is a passage in the old testament that Jesus is fulfilling.
Dt 17 6 Whoever is deserving of death shall be put to death on the testimony of two or three witnesses; he shall not be put to death on the testimony of one witness.2
Jesus was about the die for us and they had to have the truth on who he is and was. We need to trust the bible the Jesus is who he said and we can because of Johns testimony to this truth
Labels: jesus is God, John 5
Friday, April 27, 2007
eternal life is not lost
If you want a good thing you need to get a book of all the things the Lord promises in the bible. If you got a bible one thing I think you ought to do is to mark the things you can do and what God is going to do for you. I want to cover the verses in the bible about the eternal life you have in Jesus and the truth you cannot lose the salvation Jesus gave to you.
Romans 5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Not a chapter you might go to on this topic but it is one of the best in the topic. We have peace with God. Sin made us at war with God and He was ready to send us to hell and Jesus gave us his peace, in having this we no longer are at war because Jesus paid it all. We have a hope that is forever and this causes us to Glory in problems because of the charter we build in our Christian life and walk. No longer do we go to the worldv to solve our issues we have the Lord and he is the one that might give them to us to draw us to a deeper fellowship in the Lord. He wants you to turn from the world and get ready for heaven and make Jesus Lord of your life. This hope we build is focused on Jesus and heaven which he has given to all the people he saved.
Christ in Our Place
6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life
We were nothing until Jesus gave his life in taking the punshment for your sins. And the death of Jesus is the full payment. Jesus dies for us a people that had all sined and fell so far into the sins we were in that to die for us was God dieing for unwilling people who had no way to get right with God, and not wanting to. We if we had the choice in ourself are so sinful that not only would we never go to God but when we choose Jesus would trash ourself and lise our salvation the hour we got it. (We in our selfs are really bad) But the truth is Jesus made us right with God in the sin thing. Without the Payment of Jesus on the cross we have no hope to even live one second in our life. Jesus blood gives us hope and all God needed to save us and give us heaven and that means the peace of God in salvation is all on the cross and Jesus finshed his work on the cross thus we never go back into the state of not being in the right standing with God.
1 peter 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
God holds your life in his hands and he is not letting you go. We have a inheritance that is not going to fade. Jesus blood is the thing that got us there and it is keeping us there, Your life if your saved is all in heaven in a account that is yours forever. We add to this by doing the Lords will and loving Jesus. Gods power is the power that you need to get around to lose it and the power is not going to be lost on you.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.1
Faith is teasted but Jesus is going to pass the test everytime. If your trustung Jesus and he is your king see you in heaven.
I want to pound this into you and to do that here is a list of passages you might highlight in your bible and mark them and memorize them so you know this is true.
Heb. 13:5 -- For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." If we go to hell, Jesus will have to come with us because He promises He will NEVER leave us. Therefore, A Christian cannot go to hell.
Matthew 6:20 - Jesus told us to store up treasure in heaven. Why would Jesus ask us to do that if there was a chance that we would never get to heaven to enjoy those treasures?
Philippians 3:20 Tells us that Christians already have their citizenship in Heaven.
1 Peter 1:4 teaches that we have an inheritance that does not fade away, it is reserved for us in heaven.
John 14:16-17 teaches that the Holy Spirit will abide with us and in us forever.
Jonah 2:9 -- "Salvation is of the Lord" Therefore, it is God who saves us and keeps us saved. We are not kept saved by our own efforts.
Psalms 37:28 -- For the LORD loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever
Psalm 121:7,8 -- The LORD shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul. The LORD shall preserve your going out and your coming in From this time forth, and even forevermore
Jeremiah 32:40 -- I will make an everlasting covenant with my children I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me
John 10:27-28 -- My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand
John 5:24 -- Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
John 6:37 -- All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will not for any reason cast him out
John 6:39 -- This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day
John 10:9 -- Jesus said, "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."
Rom. 14:4 -- Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand
1 Cor. 1:8,9 -- He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful
2 Cor. 1:21,22 -- Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put His Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come
Heb. 7:25 -- Therefore Jesus is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always intercedes for them
Philippians 1:6 -- Being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ
2 Timothy 4:18 -- And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever.
1 Peter 1:5 -- We are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation
Hebrews 5:9 -- And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
Hebrews 9:12 -- Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption
Hebrews 9:15 -- They which are called may receive the promise of eternal inheritance
Romans 8:38-39 -- For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
Jude 1:24 -- God is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy
Rev. 3:5 -- He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life
1 John 5:4 -- For everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith
1 John 5:13 -- These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God
What about those "Christians" who totally turn from Jesus and Christianity?
The Bible teaches that they were never saved to begin with!
1 John 2:19 -- They went out from us, because they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us
Romans 5 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; 4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
Not a chapter you might go to on this topic but it is one of the best in the topic. We have peace with God. Sin made us at war with God and He was ready to send us to hell and Jesus gave us his peace, in having this we no longer are at war because Jesus paid it all. We have a hope that is forever and this causes us to Glory in problems because of the charter we build in our Christian life and walk. No longer do we go to the worldv to solve our issues we have the Lord and he is the one that might give them to us to draw us to a deeper fellowship in the Lord. He wants you to turn from the world and get ready for heaven and make Jesus Lord of your life. This hope we build is focused on Jesus and heaven which he has given to all the people he saved.
Christ in Our Place
6 For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life
We were nothing until Jesus gave his life in taking the punshment for your sins. And the death of Jesus is the full payment. Jesus dies for us a people that had all sined and fell so far into the sins we were in that to die for us was God dieing for unwilling people who had no way to get right with God, and not wanting to. We if we had the choice in ourself are so sinful that not only would we never go to God but when we choose Jesus would trash ourself and lise our salvation the hour we got it. (We in our selfs are really bad) But the truth is Jesus made us right with God in the sin thing. Without the Payment of Jesus on the cross we have no hope to even live one second in our life. Jesus blood gives us hope and all God needed to save us and give us heaven and that means the peace of God in salvation is all on the cross and Jesus finshed his work on the cross thus we never go back into the state of not being in the right standing with God.
1 peter 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
God holds your life in his hands and he is not letting you go. We have a inheritance that is not going to fade. Jesus blood is the thing that got us there and it is keeping us there, Your life if your saved is all in heaven in a account that is yours forever. We add to this by doing the Lords will and loving Jesus. Gods power is the power that you need to get around to lose it and the power is not going to be lost on you.
6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.1
Faith is teasted but Jesus is going to pass the test everytime. If your trustung Jesus and he is your king see you in heaven.
I want to pound this into you and to do that here is a list of passages you might highlight in your bible and mark them and memorize them so you know this is true.
Heb. 13:5 -- For He Himself has said, "I will never leave you nor forsake you." If we go to hell, Jesus will have to come with us because He promises He will NEVER leave us. Therefore, A Christian cannot go to hell.
Matthew 6:20 - Jesus told us to store up treasure in heaven. Why would Jesus ask us to do that if there was a chance that we would never get to heaven to enjoy those treasures?
Philippians 3:20 Tells us that Christians already have their citizenship in Heaven.
1 Peter 1:4 teaches that we have an inheritance that does not fade away, it is reserved for us in heaven.
John 14:16-17 teaches that the Holy Spirit will abide with us and in us forever.
Jonah 2:9 -- "Salvation is of the Lord" Therefore, it is God who saves us and keeps us saved. We are not kept saved by our own efforts.
Psalms 37:28 -- For the LORD loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever
Psalm 121:7,8 -- The LORD shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul. The LORD shall preserve your going out and your coming in From this time forth, and even forevermore
Jeremiah 32:40 -- I will make an everlasting covenant with my children I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me
John 10:27-28 -- My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand
John 5:24 -- Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
John 6:37 -- All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will not for any reason cast him out
John 6:39 -- This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day
John 10:9 -- Jesus said, "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture."
Rom. 14:4 -- Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand
1 Cor. 1:8,9 -- He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful
2 Cor. 1:21,22 -- Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put His Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come
Heb. 7:25 -- Therefore Jesus is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always intercedes for them
Philippians 1:6 -- Being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ
2 Timothy 4:18 -- And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever.
1 Peter 1:5 -- We are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation
Hebrews 5:9 -- And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
Hebrews 9:12 -- Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption
Hebrews 9:15 -- They which are called may receive the promise of eternal inheritance
Romans 8:38-39 -- For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
Jude 1:24 -- God is able to keep you from stumbling, And to present you faultless Before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy
Rev. 3:5 -- He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life
1 John 5:4 -- For everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith
1 John 5:13 -- These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God
What about those "Christians" who totally turn from Jesus and Christianity?
The Bible teaches that they were never saved to begin with!
1 John 2:19 -- They went out from us, because they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us
Labels: BIBLE, eternal life
Wednesday, April 25, 2007
NLT is a bible to trust
The blood of Jesus is a taboo subject nowadays amongst many pseudo-Christian groups, thanks to heretics like John MacArthur.
No peewee John is one of the worlds greats bible teachers alive. He is my pastor and the blood issue was long ago settled. It goes to show the truth that you do not now the issue Tim. I know you read my page or one of your cult reads it. No the NLT is not a bible from hell like you are. Another lie you said was a sodomite is not a prostitute. It is a homo sexual um prostitute. It is one that is not practiceing Gods way of sex. Hardly a reason to call a bible from Hell Tim.
Matt 17 21 not in the bible in many newer ones. But ok maybe that is a error.
Matthew 17:21 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 18:11 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 19:9 - half of the verse is omitted
Matthew 23:14 - entire verse omitted
Mark 6:11 - half of the verse is omitted
Mark 7:16 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:44, 46 - entire verses omitted
Mark 11:26 - entire verse omitted
Mark 15:28 - entire verse omitted
Mark 16:9-20 - entire passage is questioned by a footnote that says, "The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8"
Luke 4:8 - "get thee behind me Satan" is omitted
Luke 17:36 - entire verse omitted
Luke 23:17 - entire verse omitted
all the above is true and the reason is the best manuscripts do not contain the verses listed.
If you need to go more into that list why
No I am not going to get the kjv because the bible is out of date and mot really good for me to read If you need to comment please do. I am not here to unify I am here to point out your errore and maybe tell a few folks that your preaching is insane.
No peewee John is one of the worlds greats bible teachers alive. He is my pastor and the blood issue was long ago settled. It goes to show the truth that you do not now the issue Tim. I know you read my page or one of your cult reads it. No the NLT is not a bible from hell like you are. Another lie you said was a sodomite is not a prostitute. It is a homo sexual um prostitute. It is one that is not practiceing Gods way of sex. Hardly a reason to call a bible from Hell Tim.
Matt 17 21 not in the bible in many newer ones. But ok maybe that is a error.
Matthew 17:21 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 18:11 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 19:9 - half of the verse is omitted
Matthew 23:14 - entire verse omitted
Mark 6:11 - half of the verse is omitted
Mark 7:16 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:44, 46 - entire verses omitted
Mark 11:26 - entire verse omitted
Mark 15:28 - entire verse omitted
Mark 16:9-20 - entire passage is questioned by a footnote that says, "The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8"
Luke 4:8 - "get thee behind me Satan" is omitted
Luke 17:36 - entire verse omitted
Luke 23:17 - entire verse omitted
all the above is true and the reason is the best manuscripts do not contain the verses listed.
If you need to go more into that list why
No I am not going to get the kjv because the bible is out of date and mot really good for me to read If you need to comment please do. I am not here to unify I am here to point out your errore and maybe tell a few folks that your preaching is insane.
Labels: bible reading, nlt
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
TAKE THIS GIFT PLEASE
The King James 1611 Authorized Version will be the final authority in all matters of faith and practice above the opinions of man, tradition, or any other source. NOT here I seem to thing the bible has been updated and the NEW KJV is our source. But if 100 people ask me to change I might. We have a ton in this passage to think about so lets hit it.
Jn 5 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
So here is what I love in thjis passage. Jesus right here is given the key to heaven and life for ever. If you hear his words and belive in God that he sent Jesus to save you and died for your sin alone Jesus said your going to go to heaven. Justified by grace in faith. It is no good works. I could say this about works. If you go to church every day 5 times, pray and obey every command and soul win 2 hours a day you would not ever earn enough to get saved. If you did all the above and gave half of every check to the poor your chance of going to heaven just got no further. If you go to church every week and every time the doors are open no heaven. Matter of fact that if your saved none of this is going to make you better in Gods eyes or grow you close to Jesus. It is one thing and that is a person that believes in Jesus and is in love with him that is going to save you. Nothing else helps you. Judgment is not going to hit you if you love him and serve Jesus alone. It is going to hurt if your not walking in Jesus. If you have done this you passed into life that is not going to end. It means heaven is your home in the now and forever. Now I have done tons od study on eternal life and if your saved its forever and salvation is not ever going to be lost. If you come to Jesus I know you stay because he is the keeper not you.
25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
Jesus is the life giver and Judge. God the father gave this to the son forever. Jesus has this because his Deity and what Jesus did to pay for the sins of the saved. If your not saved Jesus blood is not yours and he has not died for you until you ask to be` his. Like if I give you a check it is not good until you cash it in. If you hear the son and respond life and Jesus and all the bible promises become your own. If you do not take Jesus none of it is yours and you go stand before the Judge and nothing saves you. TAKE THE OFFER OF GRACE PLEASE. It is Jesus died for you and you take the gift and cash it in and get life in heaven and now in the Love of Jesus and you get the holy Spirit and you live forever. Jesus is the teacher and gives you all you need to pass. Take the test Jesus gives. Let him pay for your sins and get into heaven and Gods family. If you take him he does all the work in you and helps you live for God and the first act he did is takes his cross and places your sin on Jesus and gives you Jesus perfect life.
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth— those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.1
Gods will is that Jesus pay for all sins and you walk out free and take Jesus as your sin bearer and that is going to give you life and your going to learn to love Jesus as your best friend. If you do not take Jesus on the offer you need to pay off all your sins in hell. If you tell one lie and you have forever in hell will not pay your sins. Only Jesus shed blood. Hell forever will not pay any sin that ias why hell is forever with no escape. No one will recuse you body, and yes you have a body in hell that can take fire forever and never die. If you had anything wrong your body is not healed in hell. It is a place of sheer fire and your suffering because you did not get saved. Please take the offer.
Jn 5 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life
So here is what I love in thjis passage. Jesus right here is given the key to heaven and life for ever. If you hear his words and belive in God that he sent Jesus to save you and died for your sin alone Jesus said your going to go to heaven. Justified by grace in faith. It is no good works. I could say this about works. If you go to church every day 5 times, pray and obey every command and soul win 2 hours a day you would not ever earn enough to get saved. If you did all the above and gave half of every check to the poor your chance of going to heaven just got no further. If you go to church every week and every time the doors are open no heaven. Matter of fact that if your saved none of this is going to make you better in Gods eyes or grow you close to Jesus. It is one thing and that is a person that believes in Jesus and is in love with him that is going to save you. Nothing else helps you. Judgment is not going to hit you if you love him and serve Jesus alone. It is going to hurt if your not walking in Jesus. If you have done this you passed into life that is not going to end. It means heaven is your home in the now and forever. Now I have done tons od study on eternal life and if your saved its forever and salvation is not ever going to be lost. If you come to Jesus I know you stay because he is the keeper not you.
25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man.
Jesus is the life giver and Judge. God the father gave this to the son forever. Jesus has this because his Deity and what Jesus did to pay for the sins of the saved. If your not saved Jesus blood is not yours and he has not died for you until you ask to be` his. Like if I give you a check it is not good until you cash it in. If you hear the son and respond life and Jesus and all the bible promises become your own. If you do not take Jesus none of it is yours and you go stand before the Judge and nothing saves you. TAKE THE OFFER OF GRACE PLEASE. It is Jesus died for you and you take the gift and cash it in and get life in heaven and now in the Love of Jesus and you get the holy Spirit and you live forever. Jesus is the teacher and gives you all you need to pass. Take the test Jesus gives. Let him pay for your sins and get into heaven and Gods family. If you take him he does all the work in you and helps you live for God and the first act he did is takes his cross and places your sin on Jesus and gives you Jesus perfect life.
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth— those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.1
Gods will is that Jesus pay for all sins and you walk out free and take Jesus as your sin bearer and that is going to give you life and your going to learn to love Jesus as your best friend. If you do not take Jesus on the offer you need to pay off all your sins in hell. If you tell one lie and you have forever in hell will not pay your sins. Only Jesus shed blood. Hell forever will not pay any sin that ias why hell is forever with no escape. No one will recuse you body, and yes you have a body in hell that can take fire forever and never die. If you had anything wrong your body is not healed in hell. It is a place of sheer fire and your suffering because you did not get saved. Please take the offer.
Saturday, April 21, 2007
Come to Jesus
So why do I seem so negtive toward the King James Bible. I think the Lord is in the bible and all of the bible. I just do not like folks reading things that are dissin the newer bibles out there. I am not a fan of the kjv but I know people who are. I have been in the Lord Jesus for 20 years and many of them in the NIV. I am not into the NIV but after this week I want to check out the wording of the bible in a few translations. If you want to know the bible you got to know Jesus and who he is and what he did on the cross.
John 5 22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.1
Lets get a little more into the Bible. Jesus as we know is talking to the leaders of the Jews and he is giving them some stunning things. Jesus has said in effect that he if the God who made us and he said he made the earth and the Laws and Jesus has broken his own law by healing a man on the sabbath day. So the Jews and others are getting it from Our Lord. Last time he said he was God and know he said he is the one that is going to judge everyone. Yes Jesus is one day going to judge everyone who ever lived including Me. I am scared because in my walk with Jesus many things that I did and do are not pleaseing to Jesus. Some say that all my sins are going to be there and I am not sure I agree. God has taken all my sins and nailed them on the cross and took Jesus and killed him in my place. I am sure of this I have placed my trust on Jesus alone to take all my sins and he heard me and I am not going to hell. 1 JN 5:13 is clear we can know Jesus and we can have assurance of heaven forever.
Is this not the great love here that God simply gave us the whole deal on what he is going to judge on right after he said he is going to judge us. 1 Jesus said to hear him and believe who sent him. 2 If you do that your going to not pass into judgment but pass into life in heaven. Not hard at all really. If your a sinner and in need of life forever go to Jesus and know he has paid for your sin and ask him to help you repent and place all your trust in his payment for you. All have sinner but Jesus is the sacrifice and paid for you and offers you a chance to take him and have him save you. Will you talk to Jesus and say you need him tonight? Please do and let me know if you have.
John 5 22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son, 23 that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.1
Lets get a little more into the Bible. Jesus as we know is talking to the leaders of the Jews and he is giving them some stunning things. Jesus has said in effect that he if the God who made us and he said he made the earth and the Laws and Jesus has broken his own law by healing a man on the sabbath day. So the Jews and others are getting it from Our Lord. Last time he said he was God and know he said he is the one that is going to judge everyone. Yes Jesus is one day going to judge everyone who ever lived including Me. I am scared because in my walk with Jesus many things that I did and do are not pleaseing to Jesus. Some say that all my sins are going to be there and I am not sure I agree. God has taken all my sins and nailed them on the cross and took Jesus and killed him in my place. I am sure of this I have placed my trust on Jesus alone to take all my sins and he heard me and I am not going to hell. 1 JN 5:13 is clear we can know Jesus and we can have assurance of heaven forever.
Is this not the great love here that God simply gave us the whole deal on what he is going to judge on right after he said he is going to judge us. 1 Jesus said to hear him and believe who sent him. 2 If you do that your going to not pass into judgment but pass into life in heaven. Not hard at all really. If your a sinner and in need of life forever go to Jesus and know he has paid for your sin and ask him to help you repent and place all your trust in his payment for you. All have sinner but Jesus is the sacrifice and paid for you and offers you a chance to take him and have him save you. Will you talk to Jesus and say you need him tonight? Please do and let me know if you have.
Thursday, April 19, 2007
NIV is the truth not the kjv
I guess I was off in this bible thing i AM SO SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT THE BAPTISTS HAVE ON THE SITES. So I am going to take his thing and mess it up.
THE NEW INTERNATIONAL PERVERSION
The NIV, New International Version, is straight out of the pits of Hell.the man appointed to be the Chairman of the Old Testament Committee of the NIV Committee on Bible Translation Dr. Marten Woudstra was a sodomite along with Virginia Mollenkott who worked as the stylistic editor for the Perversion If this is not convincing enough that the NIV is straight from Hell, then consider this Harper Collins who publishes the NIV, also publishes The Joy of Gay Sex, and The Satanic Bible. It doesn't take a Scientist to figure this out folks. The NIV is straight out of the pits of Hell.
The KJV is also part of the pervertion. Niv was a good thing and just because the gay book is out does not make it right. The author of this is a sick fag to and He is know to make out with many hands. Many and much masterbateion is his theme/e
The NIV is based upon the work of two Occultist of all time--Westcott and Hort.
Liars Actully they also were sinners like the people who wrote the king james Oh by the way was a fag to. Huh he was
JOHN 3:16
JOHN 3:16: The NIV reads, "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONE AND ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" Jesus was NOT "the one and only son" - Adam is called the "son of God" in Luke 3:38, there are "sons of God" in Job 1:6 and Christians are called "sons of God" in Phil 2:15, I John 3:2- but Jesus was the Only Begotten Son. That word Begotten means fathered Jesus is God's only fathered son. By removing the critical word "BEGOTTEN" - The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a lie! The NIV does the same in John 1:14, 1:18, and 3:18.
Read the greek geek. I mean it is one son and that is Jesus and he is the only Son of God. Adam is the son not the Son. Son and son is not the same.
What Verses Does The NIV take away?
GLAD YOU ASKED.
MATTHEW 18:11: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.".
ACTS 8:37: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Maybe this was not in the manuscripts. Maybe the NIV is right and the King James is off. HUM Niv is the right version not the KJV.
The NIV takes away; Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14, Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28, Luke 17:36, 23:17, John 5:4, Acts 8:37, 15:34, 24:7, 28:28, Romans 16:24 and 1 John 5:7!
again I think the right and older manuscipts are right and the kjv is off. Not in any of the versions geek man. Read any study bible and they say they are not there because GOD DID NOT PUT THEM THERE.
After Mark 16:8 the NIV says, "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." What! That is another 12 verses that they are taking away from God's Word the KJB. After John 7:52, the NIV, reads, "The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11" What! that is another 12 verses!
NIV got this right because they are not there because God did not place them there. But allow this sermon to explain this to you geeks.
Pursuing Jesus In The Gospel Of MarkThe Unfinished GospelMark 16:9-20
Introduction: Visiting A Children’s Sunday School Class
I want to invite you to visit a Sunday School Class of 3rd Graders this morning. The children have recently received Bibles when they graduated from the 2nd Grade. The teacher asks the class to find John 8:1-11. As the pages stop turning, you see puzzled looks on their faces. One of them raises his hand—this is a polite class of children—and points out there are no verses 1-11. The chapter starts with verse 12. Then the question comes, “Teacher, why are these verses left out?” The teacher hasn’t checked out the Bibles awarded to her class. In this version the verses have been placed in a footnote. The teacher has no answer.
This actually happened in my 3rd grade Sunday School class. The Bibles given to us were the Revised Standard Version. The editors had determined the account of the women who was about to be stoned for adultery shouldn’t be included—at least not at this place. My friend, Steve, and I began to look for other places where this happened. One of our favorites was James 1:7. This became our favorite memory verse because it consists of a single comma. You can check it out and consider it as a possibility to be your life verse.
We soon discovered the verses at the end of Mark had also been placed in a footnote that said other texts and versions added these verses. There was also another shorter ending offered as a possibility.
But they reported briefly to Peter and those with him all they had been told. And after this, Jesus himself sent out by means of them, from east to west, the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation.
Even in 3rd grade that sounded strange.
Some have pounced on verses like this as proof the Bible has errors. Because errors exist in the Bible, and are very common they argue, it is up to the reader to decide what really belongs and what doesn’t.
So, what’s up? Let’s read the passage and then see if we can answer that question.
When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
Question 1: Did Mark write verses 9-20?
While many options have been proposed as answers to this question there really is a choice between only two answers: yes, he did or no, he didn’t. Those who answer no can then be further divided into two groups. The first group says Mark intended to end his gospel at verse 8. The second group contends he meant to include something more but he never did or it was somehow lost.
Where do I fall? I don’t think Mark wrote the verses.
Question 2: What reasons are there for not accepting Mark as author of these verses?
1st Reason: The textual evidence doesn’t support the verses
A valuable principle of biblical interpretation is that the earlier a manuscript was transcribed the more likely it is to be accurate. In other words scribal mistakes in copying are more likely to occur the farther you move away from the actual date of writing.
It’s the same principle that works in the childhood game of telephone where a phrase is whispered from person to person. By the time you get to the end of the chain the message is far removed from the original.
One reason for valuing the accuracy of the Bible we have today is that very few “mistakes” were actually made. Even in those passages where items identified as mistakes are used as an attack against the value of the Bible, the errors made in scribal transmission are quite minor and don’t affect any major doctrines. Many of us have discovered during a Faith Search Seminar: you can count on the accurate reliability of the Bible.
These verses simply aren’t found in the earliest, most reliable manuscripts. It’s not just some of the early manuscripts. It’s all of them. The verses aren’t found until much later. Early church fathers like Clement of Alexandria and Origen didn’t seem to know in the early 3rd Century these verses even existed. Noted church historian Eusebius, born about 260 A.D. and died about 340, noted that “the most accurate copies” and “almost all the copies” of Mark ended with verse 8. Jerome who was born around 340 A.D. and died about 420 wrote that almost all the Greek manuscripts lacked verses 9-20.
Modern scholars who produced the most widely used Greek New Testament evaluated passages like this one and provide their evaluation in footnotes. After evaluating the manuscript evidence they assigned the highest level of certainty to their decision that these verses weren’t included as part of Mark’s original history. We should note there are manuscripts that do include these verses. The balance, however, is heavily weighted toward not including these verses.
2nd Reason: Internal evidence doesn’t support the inclusion of these verses
The findings here become quite technical so let’s note a few highlights.
· There are 18 occurrences of words not previously used by Mark. This is highly unexpected.
· There is a noticeable difference in the style of writing. Greek scholars note there is an abrupt shift in sentence structure and formation.
· The contents don’t fit the context. After Jesus is risen the woman are told…
“But go, tell his disciples and Peter, 'He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.' " Mark 16:7
One would therefore expect Jesus to meet His disciples in Galilee. What actually happens? There are a number of appearances mentioned, but we know from other passages that most of them took place in Judea.
The internal evidence points to someone other than Mark adding an ending at a later time to soften the abrupt ending.
Question 3: Did Mark intend for the gospel to end with verse 8?
It seems highly unlikely that Mark intended for the gospel to end here. One reason is the fact that there is no other example of another book ending so abruptly. A second reason is that the ending is not only abrupt; it is discouragingly pessimistic. Look again at how this verse would end the gospel.
Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid. Mark 16:8
The most joyous event Christianity knows is shrouded by dark gloom.
Question 4: Did Mark ever finish his gospel? If not, why not? If so, what happened to the concluding lines?
There is only one answer to these questions: Nobody knows. If they were finished, they have been lost and never found. If they never were finished they don’t exist and can never be found. Either way, we end up at the same place. We don’t know if they ever existed.
Question 5: Are there parts of the passage we would be wise to follow? Are there parts we would be wise to question?
Even though these verses may not have been written by Mark there are portions of the passage it would be wise to follow because they agree with other passages in the New Testament.
Jesus Appears To Mary Magdalene (vv. 9-11)
We need to note that even though some translations use His name, Jesus is not identified by name. References are in the third person.
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping. When they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they refused to believe it. Mark 16:9-11 NASB
This summarizes John 20:11-18. It is brief and to the point. It covers all the important points of Jesus’ appearance to Mary. There is nothing here that doesn’t fit the facts.
Jesus Appears On The Road To Two Disciples (vv. 12-13)
These two verses summarize Luke 24:13-35. It is again brief.
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
Mark 16:12-13
This passage has the feel of a commentary on Luke’s account. It explains why the two disciples didn’t recognize Jesus. He appeared in a different form. The account doesn’t tell what happened along the road or why they finally understood they were walking with Jesus.
There is a significant problem, however, when the disciples don’t believe the report that they had seen Jesus. The longer account in Luke mentions nothing about doubt. It’s another reason to doubt the reliability of these verses.
Jesus Commissions The Disciples (vv. 14-18)
The next action, paralleling Matthew 28:16-20, is the commissioning of the disciples to carry on with the task of taking God’s good news to the world.
Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen. Mark 16:14
There are no details provided about the time or place of the meeting. It is probably Easter evening and may refer to the meeting where Thomas wasn’t present. Thomas is singled out later for his lack of faith, but this account tells us the other disciples were also struggling to believe Jesus was no longer dead. In fact, they stubbornly refused to believe the accounts they were hearing.
With words that parallel The Great Commission in Matthew 28 Jesus gives the disciples their assignment. The timing here is much different than in Matthew where the commission is given just prior to Jesus’ return to heaven.
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Mark 16:15-16
Some have used this verse to tie salvation to being baptized. The emphasis, however, is on believing. It is not the refusal to be baptized that condemns someone; it is the refusal to believe. We certainly do well in carrying out the command.
That’s not so true with the next verses, which make up a most difficult passage. Jesus gives five signs that accompany those who believe.
And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." Mark 16:17-18
Some of these signs were powerfully evident during the early years of the church.
· Demons were cast out of people
· People spoke in different languages
· Sick people were healed
While these miraculous gifts are viewed in many different ways today, there is no doubt they demonstrated God’s power as the church began.
The two other signs pose significant problems. There is no other place in the Bible where we see handling poisonous snakes and drinking poison being normative. There are religious groups today who practice snake handling as a way to demonstrate faith. They join this passage with the account where Paul is bitten by a snake after being shipwrecked on Malta (Acts 28:1-6). When the other people saw the snake bite Paul they thought at first he must be a criminal because, even though he escaped the shipwreck, justice was still going to require his life. When Paul shook the snake off his hand and showed no effects from the bite, they then decided he must be a god. They were wrong both times. It’s also wrong to use this account as an example of what is being suggested in this ending of Mark. This isn’t talking about an accidental bite. This talks about deliberately picking up a snake because faith will keep you safe even when you are bitten. Groups that practice snake handling handle the snakes carefully—very carefully. They are much more about being kept safe by not being bitten than being kept safe after being bitten.
There are no groups who actively practice drinking poison as a demonstration of faith. I suppose it would be powerful way to demonstrate your faith. The problem is that any religious groups that have used poison used it as part of a mass suicide. I want you all to relax because we are not going to adopt drinking poison as part of our worship service. I couldn’t get anyone to volunteer to be the first person—and it wasn’t because of a lack of faith.
Question 6: How should we treat these verses?
There is much that is good in this questionable ending to Mark’s gospel and there is some that is deadly dangerous. What should we do with them? Consider this as a guiding principle: Use these verses where they are in agreement with other Scripture, but don’t build doctrine where these verses stand alone.
This principle frees us to live by faith according to the clear teaching of God’s Word, but it also protects us from being foolhardy. We know we have been commanded by Jesus to tell others about His life, death and resurrection. We know faith will be accompanied by miraculous power. We also know that we must be very careful to avoid acting in presumption. God doesn’t guarantee to protect us from our foolishness.
This ending of Mark finishes looking to the future.
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
Mark 16:19-20
The timing of Jesus’ return to heaven doesn’t match with the other places in the New Testament, but He did return and sit down in the place of honor. The disciples did go and preach as God worked through them, confirming the message with His miraculous power.
This leaves one last question.
Question 7: After studying this question-filled passage, what can we take away with us today?
Conclusion: Remember The Beginning
To fully appreciate the ending of Mark we need to remember the beginning. Go back to the first verse of the book.
The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Mark 1:1
In the very first message in this series I shared this thought with you.
Matthew develops the Jewish heritage of Jesus in his opening chapters. Luke presents the most complete account of the birth of Jesus as the God-man. John presents Jesus in the eternal plan of God. Mark jumps into the story at the point where Jesus begins His ministry. His approach connects with the Joe Fridays of the world, “The facts—just the facts.”
Mark’s purpose is to lead people to consider who Jesus is so they might put faith in Jesus as Savior and Lord.
Keeping this purpose clearly in view, to assume that Mark ends the gospel at verse 8 with trembling, terrified women doesn’t seem to fit with how carefully he builds his case throughout the book to lead people to trust Jesus as Savior and Lord. Neither the short or long ending proves effective in fulfilling his purpose because we are left with more questions at the end than answers.
This is the lesson I want you to consider. Let Mark be known as The Unfinished Gospel with verse 8 as the last, but not final word. Mark promised to write the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The ending is up to us.
If you look for these verses you will see that they will go from Example: Acts 8:36 to Acts 8:38 they skip the whole verse. At least they are honest enough to do that some of these sorry liars take half of the verse before it and half of the verse after it to make up for the verse that is missing.
WHY IS THE WORD SODOMITE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE NIV?
There were homosexuals (The Bible uses the word "Sodomites" after the city of Sodom which God destroyed because of it's wickedness) You remember in the earlier part of this post Virgina Mollenkott and Marten Woudstra, 2 sodomites. Is it any wonder why the word "sodomite" is not in the NIV? It doesn't require too much thinking. Just look at how these sodomites changed God's Word (KJB)
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
Deuteronomy 23:17- There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
THE NIV
Deuteronomy 23:17- No Israelite man or woman is to become a shrine prostitute.
Look at the Greek and the truth. Again your KJV is wrong and the niv is right because God did not say this.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 14:24- And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
THE NIV
1 Kings 14:24- There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 15:12- And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
THE NIV
1 Kings 15:12- He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 22:46- And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
THE NIV
1 Kings 22:46- He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
2 Kings 23:7- And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
THE NIV
2 Kings 23:7- He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes, which were in the temple of the LORD and where women did weaving for Asherah.
If you have a New International Perversion do God a favor and burn the thing.
Do me a favor and stop going to the baptist church and go to a church that preaches the right bible. Stop telling me my bible is wrong and stop your I am right trash. I mean to nail you in my comments because I really think the baptists are so off on the issue and they do not read and find out why the bible we use is not the kjv. If your comments are going to be that I am not right I ask you to go on the net and read both sides. I have been reading on this for a long time and I have yet to ever meet a baptist that reads all sides and they attack me because I know I am right on. I have spoken to many folks on my side and they are all right.
THE NEW INTERNATIONAL PERVERSION
The NIV, New International Version, is straight out of the pits of Hell.the man appointed to be the Chairman of the Old Testament Committee of the NIV Committee on Bible Translation Dr. Marten Woudstra was a sodomite along with Virginia Mollenkott who worked as the stylistic editor for the Perversion If this is not convincing enough that the NIV is straight from Hell, then consider this Harper Collins who publishes the NIV, also publishes The Joy of Gay Sex, and The Satanic Bible. It doesn't take a Scientist to figure this out folks. The NIV is straight out of the pits of Hell.
The KJV is also part of the pervertion. Niv was a good thing and just because the gay book is out does not make it right. The author of this is a sick fag to and He is know to make out with many hands. Many and much masterbateion is his theme/e
The NIV is based upon the work of two Occultist of all time--Westcott and Hort.
Liars Actully they also were sinners like the people who wrote the king james Oh by the way was a fag to. Huh he was
JOHN 3:16
JOHN 3:16: The NIV reads, "For God so loved the world that he gave his ONE AND ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" Jesus was NOT "the one and only son" - Adam is called the "son of God" in Luke 3:38, there are "sons of God" in Job 1:6 and Christians are called "sons of God" in Phil 2:15, I John 3:2- but Jesus was the Only Begotten Son. That word Begotten means fathered Jesus is God's only fathered son. By removing the critical word "BEGOTTEN" - The NIV perverts John 3:16 into a lie! The NIV does the same in John 1:14, 1:18, and 3:18.
Read the greek geek. I mean it is one son and that is Jesus and he is the only Son of God. Adam is the son not the Son. Son and son is not the same.
What Verses Does The NIV take away?
GLAD YOU ASKED.
MATTHEW 18:11: "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.".
ACTS 8:37: "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
Maybe this was not in the manuscripts. Maybe the NIV is right and the King James is off. HUM Niv is the right version not the KJV.
The NIV takes away; Matthew 17:21, 18:11, 23:14, Mark 7:16, 9:44, 9:46, 11:26, 15:28, Luke 17:36, 23:17, John 5:4, Acts 8:37, 15:34, 24:7, 28:28, Romans 16:24 and 1 John 5:7!
again I think the right and older manuscipts are right and the kjv is off. Not in any of the versions geek man. Read any study bible and they say they are not there because GOD DID NOT PUT THEM THERE.
After Mark 16:8 the NIV says, "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." What! That is another 12 verses that they are taking away from God's Word the KJB. After John 7:52, the NIV, reads, "The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11" What! that is another 12 verses!
NIV got this right because they are not there because God did not place them there. But allow this sermon to explain this to you geeks.
Pursuing Jesus In The Gospel Of MarkThe Unfinished GospelMark 16:9-20
Introduction: Visiting A Children’s Sunday School Class
I want to invite you to visit a Sunday School Class of 3rd Graders this morning. The children have recently received Bibles when they graduated from the 2nd Grade. The teacher asks the class to find John 8:1-11. As the pages stop turning, you see puzzled looks on their faces. One of them raises his hand—this is a polite class of children—and points out there are no verses 1-11. The chapter starts with verse 12. Then the question comes, “Teacher, why are these verses left out?” The teacher hasn’t checked out the Bibles awarded to her class. In this version the verses have been placed in a footnote. The teacher has no answer.
This actually happened in my 3rd grade Sunday School class. The Bibles given to us were the Revised Standard Version. The editors had determined the account of the women who was about to be stoned for adultery shouldn’t be included—at least not at this place. My friend, Steve, and I began to look for other places where this happened. One of our favorites was James 1:7. This became our favorite memory verse because it consists of a single comma. You can check it out and consider it as a possibility to be your life verse.
We soon discovered the verses at the end of Mark had also been placed in a footnote that said other texts and versions added these verses. There was also another shorter ending offered as a possibility.
But they reported briefly to Peter and those with him all they had been told. And after this, Jesus himself sent out by means of them, from east to west, the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation.
Even in 3rd grade that sounded strange.
Some have pounced on verses like this as proof the Bible has errors. Because errors exist in the Bible, and are very common they argue, it is up to the reader to decide what really belongs and what doesn’t.
So, what’s up? Let’s read the passage and then see if we can answer that question.
When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well."
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
Question 1: Did Mark write verses 9-20?
While many options have been proposed as answers to this question there really is a choice between only two answers: yes, he did or no, he didn’t. Those who answer no can then be further divided into two groups. The first group says Mark intended to end his gospel at verse 8. The second group contends he meant to include something more but he never did or it was somehow lost.
Where do I fall? I don’t think Mark wrote the verses.
Question 2: What reasons are there for not accepting Mark as author of these verses?
1st Reason: The textual evidence doesn’t support the verses
A valuable principle of biblical interpretation is that the earlier a manuscript was transcribed the more likely it is to be accurate. In other words scribal mistakes in copying are more likely to occur the farther you move away from the actual date of writing.
It’s the same principle that works in the childhood game of telephone where a phrase is whispered from person to person. By the time you get to the end of the chain the message is far removed from the original.
One reason for valuing the accuracy of the Bible we have today is that very few “mistakes” were actually made. Even in those passages where items identified as mistakes are used as an attack against the value of the Bible, the errors made in scribal transmission are quite minor and don’t affect any major doctrines. Many of us have discovered during a Faith Search Seminar: you can count on the accurate reliability of the Bible.
These verses simply aren’t found in the earliest, most reliable manuscripts. It’s not just some of the early manuscripts. It’s all of them. The verses aren’t found until much later. Early church fathers like Clement of Alexandria and Origen didn’t seem to know in the early 3rd Century these verses even existed. Noted church historian Eusebius, born about 260 A.D. and died about 340, noted that “the most accurate copies” and “almost all the copies” of Mark ended with verse 8. Jerome who was born around 340 A.D. and died about 420 wrote that almost all the Greek manuscripts lacked verses 9-20.
Modern scholars who produced the most widely used Greek New Testament evaluated passages like this one and provide their evaluation in footnotes. After evaluating the manuscript evidence they assigned the highest level of certainty to their decision that these verses weren’t included as part of Mark’s original history. We should note there are manuscripts that do include these verses. The balance, however, is heavily weighted toward not including these verses.
2nd Reason: Internal evidence doesn’t support the inclusion of these verses
The findings here become quite technical so let’s note a few highlights.
· There are 18 occurrences of words not previously used by Mark. This is highly unexpected.
· There is a noticeable difference in the style of writing. Greek scholars note there is an abrupt shift in sentence structure and formation.
· The contents don’t fit the context. After Jesus is risen the woman are told…
“But go, tell his disciples and Peter, 'He is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him, just as he told you.' " Mark 16:7
One would therefore expect Jesus to meet His disciples in Galilee. What actually happens? There are a number of appearances mentioned, but we know from other passages that most of them took place in Judea.
The internal evidence points to someone other than Mark adding an ending at a later time to soften the abrupt ending.
Question 3: Did Mark intend for the gospel to end with verse 8?
It seems highly unlikely that Mark intended for the gospel to end here. One reason is the fact that there is no other example of another book ending so abruptly. A second reason is that the ending is not only abrupt; it is discouragingly pessimistic. Look again at how this verse would end the gospel.
Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid. Mark 16:8
The most joyous event Christianity knows is shrouded by dark gloom.
Question 4: Did Mark ever finish his gospel? If not, why not? If so, what happened to the concluding lines?
There is only one answer to these questions: Nobody knows. If they were finished, they have been lost and never found. If they never were finished they don’t exist and can never be found. Either way, we end up at the same place. We don’t know if they ever existed.
Question 5: Are there parts of the passage we would be wise to follow? Are there parts we would be wise to question?
Even though these verses may not have been written by Mark there are portions of the passage it would be wise to follow because they agree with other passages in the New Testament.
Jesus Appears To Mary Magdalene (vv. 9-11)
We need to note that even though some translations use His name, Jesus is not identified by name. References are in the third person.
Now after He had risen early on the first day of the week, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons. She went and reported to those who had been with Him, while they were mourning and weeping. When they heard that He was alive and had been seen by her, they refused to believe it. Mark 16:9-11 NASB
This summarizes John 20:11-18. It is brief and to the point. It covers all the important points of Jesus’ appearance to Mary. There is nothing here that doesn’t fit the facts.
Jesus Appears On The Road To Two Disciples (vv. 12-13)
These two verses summarize Luke 24:13-35. It is again brief.
Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
Mark 16:12-13
This passage has the feel of a commentary on Luke’s account. It explains why the two disciples didn’t recognize Jesus. He appeared in a different form. The account doesn’t tell what happened along the road or why they finally understood they were walking with Jesus.
There is a significant problem, however, when the disciples don’t believe the report that they had seen Jesus. The longer account in Luke mentions nothing about doubt. It’s another reason to doubt the reliability of these verses.
Jesus Commissions The Disciples (vv. 14-18)
The next action, paralleling Matthew 28:16-20, is the commissioning of the disciples to carry on with the task of taking God’s good news to the world.
Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen. Mark 16:14
There are no details provided about the time or place of the meeting. It is probably Easter evening and may refer to the meeting where Thomas wasn’t present. Thomas is singled out later for his lack of faith, but this account tells us the other disciples were also struggling to believe Jesus was no longer dead. In fact, they stubbornly refused to believe the accounts they were hearing.
With words that parallel The Great Commission in Matthew 28 Jesus gives the disciples their assignment. The timing here is much different than in Matthew where the commission is given just prior to Jesus’ return to heaven.
He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Mark 16:15-16
Some have used this verse to tie salvation to being baptized. The emphasis, however, is on believing. It is not the refusal to be baptized that condemns someone; it is the refusal to believe. We certainly do well in carrying out the command.
That’s not so true with the next verses, which make up a most difficult passage. Jesus gives five signs that accompany those who believe.
And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." Mark 16:17-18
Some of these signs were powerfully evident during the early years of the church.
· Demons were cast out of people
· People spoke in different languages
· Sick people were healed
While these miraculous gifts are viewed in many different ways today, there is no doubt they demonstrated God’s power as the church began.
The two other signs pose significant problems. There is no other place in the Bible where we see handling poisonous snakes and drinking poison being normative. There are religious groups today who practice snake handling as a way to demonstrate faith. They join this passage with the account where Paul is bitten by a snake after being shipwrecked on Malta (Acts 28:1-6). When the other people saw the snake bite Paul they thought at first he must be a criminal because, even though he escaped the shipwreck, justice was still going to require his life. When Paul shook the snake off his hand and showed no effects from the bite, they then decided he must be a god. They were wrong both times. It’s also wrong to use this account as an example of what is being suggested in this ending of Mark. This isn’t talking about an accidental bite. This talks about deliberately picking up a snake because faith will keep you safe even when you are bitten. Groups that practice snake handling handle the snakes carefully—very carefully. They are much more about being kept safe by not being bitten than being kept safe after being bitten.
There are no groups who actively practice drinking poison as a demonstration of faith. I suppose it would be powerful way to demonstrate your faith. The problem is that any religious groups that have used poison used it as part of a mass suicide. I want you all to relax because we are not going to adopt drinking poison as part of our worship service. I couldn’t get anyone to volunteer to be the first person—and it wasn’t because of a lack of faith.
Question 6: How should we treat these verses?
There is much that is good in this questionable ending to Mark’s gospel and there is some that is deadly dangerous. What should we do with them? Consider this as a guiding principle: Use these verses where they are in agreement with other Scripture, but don’t build doctrine where these verses stand alone.
This principle frees us to live by faith according to the clear teaching of God’s Word, but it also protects us from being foolhardy. We know we have been commanded by Jesus to tell others about His life, death and resurrection. We know faith will be accompanied by miraculous power. We also know that we must be very careful to avoid acting in presumption. God doesn’t guarantee to protect us from our foolishness.
This ending of Mark finishes looking to the future.
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
Mark 16:19-20
The timing of Jesus’ return to heaven doesn’t match with the other places in the New Testament, but He did return and sit down in the place of honor. The disciples did go and preach as God worked through them, confirming the message with His miraculous power.
This leaves one last question.
Question 7: After studying this question-filled passage, what can we take away with us today?
Conclusion: Remember The Beginning
To fully appreciate the ending of Mark we need to remember the beginning. Go back to the first verse of the book.
The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
Mark 1:1
In the very first message in this series I shared this thought with you.
Matthew develops the Jewish heritage of Jesus in his opening chapters. Luke presents the most complete account of the birth of Jesus as the God-man. John presents Jesus in the eternal plan of God. Mark jumps into the story at the point where Jesus begins His ministry. His approach connects with the Joe Fridays of the world, “The facts—just the facts.”
Mark’s purpose is to lead people to consider who Jesus is so they might put faith in Jesus as Savior and Lord.
Keeping this purpose clearly in view, to assume that Mark ends the gospel at verse 8 with trembling, terrified women doesn’t seem to fit with how carefully he builds his case throughout the book to lead people to trust Jesus as Savior and Lord. Neither the short or long ending proves effective in fulfilling his purpose because we are left with more questions at the end than answers.
This is the lesson I want you to consider. Let Mark be known as The Unfinished Gospel with verse 8 as the last, but not final word. Mark promised to write the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. The ending is up to us.
If you look for these verses you will see that they will go from Example: Acts 8:36 to Acts 8:38 they skip the whole verse. At least they are honest enough to do that some of these sorry liars take half of the verse before it and half of the verse after it to make up for the verse that is missing.
WHY IS THE WORD SODOMITE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE NIV?
There were homosexuals (The Bible uses the word "Sodomites" after the city of Sodom which God destroyed because of it's wickedness) You remember in the earlier part of this post Virgina Mollenkott and Marten Woudstra, 2 sodomites. Is it any wonder why the word "sodomite" is not in the NIV? It doesn't require too much thinking. Just look at how these sodomites changed God's Word (KJB)
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
Deuteronomy 23:17- There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
THE NIV
Deuteronomy 23:17- No Israelite man or woman is to become a shrine prostitute.
Look at the Greek and the truth. Again your KJV is wrong and the niv is right because God did not say this.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 14:24- And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
THE NIV
1 Kings 14:24- There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 15:12- And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
THE NIV
1 Kings 15:12- He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his fathers had made.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
1 Kings 22:46- And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.
THE NIV
1 Kings 22:46- He rid the land of the rest of the male shrine prostitutes who remained there even after the reign of his father Asa.
THE AUTHORIZED KING JAMES VERSION
2 Kings 23:7- And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.
THE NIV
2 Kings 23:7- He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes, which were in the temple of the LORD and where women did weaving for Asherah.
If you have a New International Perversion do God a favor and burn the thing.
Do me a favor and stop going to the baptist church and go to a church that preaches the right bible. Stop telling me my bible is wrong and stop your I am right trash. I mean to nail you in my comments because I really think the baptists are so off on the issue and they do not read and find out why the bible we use is not the kjv. If your comments are going to be that I am not right I ask you to go on the net and read both sides. I have been reading on this for a long time and I have yet to ever meet a baptist that reads all sides and they attack me because I know I am right on. I have spoken to many folks on my side and they are all right.
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Wednesday, April 18, 2007
Jesus is God
On the Playoffs in the NBA. I am glad the Lakers are in and I am cheering for them in the west and I am Toronto for the east. Then I am a Laker fan for the finals. I am also into the nhl and I am cheering for the Pittsburgh and the wild. I want the wild to win the cup so we can brag about it.
John 5 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. 1
Here is what Jesus is saying. He is claiming to be God and he is not holding back anything. Jesus is God and whatever he said is like God saying it. So when you reject Jesus your rejecting the one that made you and rejecting salvation and all hope of heaven. You cannot go and be in a home as one blogger is with people that are not Christians. They are not saved and hell is where they go when they die Lauren. Jesus is the very God in the flesh and what Jesus said is he is it to the Jews of that time. Being the one that made the Laws of the sabbath Jesus can say what they mean and so as he needs to. Jesus perfectly obeyed all the laws HE made.
Note also that Jesus is the one that gives life to whoever he wills. Not to anyone that comes to Jesus but who Jesus wants to give it to. God alone picks who he is going to save at the beginning of time. It is his job to save the people and not your job. Jesus asked you to share the truth of Jesus and then it is alone the job of God to do the saving. If you share the truth and people do not make a call to Jesus that is not on you it is on the Lord to save. I have never saved anyone ever it is God that saved not anyone but.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
John 5 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. 1
Here is what Jesus is saying. He is claiming to be God and he is not holding back anything. Jesus is God and whatever he said is like God saying it. So when you reject Jesus your rejecting the one that made you and rejecting salvation and all hope of heaven. You cannot go and be in a home as one blogger is with people that are not Christians. They are not saved and hell is where they go when they die Lauren. Jesus is the very God in the flesh and what Jesus said is he is it to the Jews of that time. Being the one that made the Laws of the sabbath Jesus can say what they mean and so as he needs to. Jesus perfectly obeyed all the laws HE made.
Note also that Jesus is the one that gives life to whoever he wills. Not to anyone that comes to Jesus but who Jesus wants to give it to. God alone picks who he is going to save at the beginning of time. It is his job to save the people and not your job. Jesus asked you to share the truth of Jesus and then it is alone the job of God to do the saving. If you share the truth and people do not make a call to Jesus that is not on you it is on the Lord to save. I have never saved anyone ever it is God that saved not anyone but.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
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Tuesday, April 17, 2007
piper is right on calvin
I did not think I would but I found a 2 gig I pod on Mon and I got it. It is going to work out well as I am listening for things on the bible to place to you the readers on this page. I am always thinking and I want to go back to the topic of calvinism for a night and just place some things piper had to say. I want to see what he said about the histroy of this. It might be a long paper tonight
"For Those Whom He Foreknew"
Verse 29: "For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son." What does "foreknew" mean? Some have taken it to mean that God simply foresees who will believe on him and these are the ones he predestines to be like Jesus. But this assumes two things that are not true. One is that the faith God foresees is ultimately and decisively our work, not his work. In other words, the point of this interpretation is that God does not cause our faith, he only foresees the faith which we cause.
Now this is not what the Bible teaches, not elsewhere (Philippians 1:29; Ephesians 2:8-9; 2 Timothy 2:24-26; Matthew 16:17), nor here in the context. When Paul says in Romans 8:30, "Those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified," he means all the called are justified. But to be justified we must believe (Romans 5:1). So he is saying all those who are called believe and are justified. But how can he say ALL who are called believe? The reason, as I tried to show in the exposition of "called" in verse 28, is that the call is the powerful work of God to bring about what he demands. It's an effective call. It's a call that creates what it commands. It's a call like "Lazarus, come forth!" and the dead man lives. So the point is, believing for justification is not some thing I do on my own. God enables me. God empowers me. I must do it. Believing is something I do. But my doing is a gift of God. I do not take ultimate credit for it. I thank God for it. I am saved by sovereign grace from first to last.
So it is wrong to assume that when Romans 8:29 says, "God foreknew" some, it means he simply foresaw that they would believe by their own power. He gave that power, and so some something more is going on here than the mere foreseeing of what we do.
Here's the other mistaken assumption of this view. It assumes that the meaning of "foreknowing" is not the meaning it has in many Old and New Testament texts that would give a more coherent meaning to this passage. Listen to these uses of "know" and ask yourself what each means. In Genesis 18:19 God says of Abraham, "I have known him, so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord." Virtually all the English versions translate this, "I have chosen him." In Amos 3:2 God says to the people of Israel, "You only have I known among all the families of the earth." He knew about all the families, but only chose Israel. In Matthew 7:23 Jesus said to the hypocrites at the judgment day, "I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness." Psalm 1:6 says, "The Lord knows the way of the righteous, But the way of the wicked will perish." He knows about the way of the wicked too. But he knows the way of the righteous in the sense of approving and recognizing and loving. In Hosea 13:5 God says to Israel, "I knew you in the wilderness, In the land of drought," meaning he took note of your plight and cared for you. And Genesis 4:1 says, "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain." That is, he made her his, and knew her intimately and loved her.
(Romans 8:33; 9:11; 11:5,7).
So we have to see what the words mean in the bible as a whole. Know has to be the right word in the text. Here is a lession in reading the bible, when a word is used it is good to see it in other bible passages. It is good to look it up in a concordance and a book of greek words and see what it means.
I don't say this to scold you or condemn you if you struggle. Just the opposite. I say it to encourage you that just like behavioral conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong deeds, and emotional conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong feelings, so intellectual conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong thinking. So I am never surprised when some folks stumble over the harder teachings of Scripture. Conformity to Christ does not come all at once, neither, behavioral, nor emotional, nor intellectual.
So let's pray for each other, that in every way Christ might be exalted through our conformity to him, and we might enjoy the massive assurance that because of our election and predestination everything will work together for our good. And if you sit there wondering: am I among the chosen, the predestined, the called, here's how you can know: Do you see Jesus as more to be desired than anything else, and sufficient to save you from your sin, and satisfy your heart forever? That is the mark of God's child. He who has the Son has life (1 John 5:12). To has many as received him, to them God gave the right to be become the children of God (John 1:12). Receive him!
Back in the time before the American war for freedom man as a whole had Calvinist theology,. In the time of the reformers a ton of preachers were indeed Calvin like. The pilgrims were Calvinist and the churches first started this land and gave us freedoms we have in this land today. In fact the London confession was a baptist creed and they were of this to. The concept of freedom of choice was not a part of the church until the 1900s.
"For Those Whom He Foreknew"
Verse 29: "For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son." What does "foreknew" mean? Some have taken it to mean that God simply foresees who will believe on him and these are the ones he predestines to be like Jesus. But this assumes two things that are not true. One is that the faith God foresees is ultimately and decisively our work, not his work. In other words, the point of this interpretation is that God does not cause our faith, he only foresees the faith which we cause.
Now this is not what the Bible teaches, not elsewhere (Philippians 1:29; Ephesians 2:8-9; 2 Timothy 2:24-26; Matthew 16:17), nor here in the context. When Paul says in Romans 8:30, "Those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified," he means all the called are justified. But to be justified we must believe (Romans 5:1). So he is saying all those who are called believe and are justified. But how can he say ALL who are called believe? The reason, as I tried to show in the exposition of "called" in verse 28, is that the call is the powerful work of God to bring about what he demands. It's an effective call. It's a call that creates what it commands. It's a call like "Lazarus, come forth!" and the dead man lives. So the point is, believing for justification is not some thing I do on my own. God enables me. God empowers me. I must do it. Believing is something I do. But my doing is a gift of God. I do not take ultimate credit for it. I thank God for it. I am saved by sovereign grace from first to last.
So it is wrong to assume that when Romans 8:29 says, "God foreknew" some, it means he simply foresaw that they would believe by their own power. He gave that power, and so some something more is going on here than the mere foreseeing of what we do.
Here's the other mistaken assumption of this view. It assumes that the meaning of "foreknowing" is not the meaning it has in many Old and New Testament texts that would give a more coherent meaning to this passage. Listen to these uses of "know" and ask yourself what each means. In Genesis 18:19 God says of Abraham, "I have known him, so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord." Virtually all the English versions translate this, "I have chosen him." In Amos 3:2 God says to the people of Israel, "You only have I known among all the families of the earth." He knew about all the families, but only chose Israel. In Matthew 7:23 Jesus said to the hypocrites at the judgment day, "I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness." Psalm 1:6 says, "The Lord knows the way of the righteous, But the way of the wicked will perish." He knows about the way of the wicked too. But he knows the way of the righteous in the sense of approving and recognizing and loving. In Hosea 13:5 God says to Israel, "I knew you in the wilderness, In the land of drought," meaning he took note of your plight and cared for you. And Genesis 4:1 says, "Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain." That is, he made her his, and knew her intimately and loved her.
(Romans 8:33; 9:11; 11:5,7).
So we have to see what the words mean in the bible as a whole. Know has to be the right word in the text. Here is a lession in reading the bible, when a word is used it is good to see it in other bible passages. It is good to look it up in a concordance and a book of greek words and see what it means.
I don't say this to scold you or condemn you if you struggle. Just the opposite. I say it to encourage you that just like behavioral conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong deeds, and emotional conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong feelings, so intellectual conformity to Jesus is a life-long battle with wrong thinking. So I am never surprised when some folks stumble over the harder teachings of Scripture. Conformity to Christ does not come all at once, neither, behavioral, nor emotional, nor intellectual.
So let's pray for each other, that in every way Christ might be exalted through our conformity to him, and we might enjoy the massive assurance that because of our election and predestination everything will work together for our good. And if you sit there wondering: am I among the chosen, the predestined, the called, here's how you can know: Do you see Jesus as more to be desired than anything else, and sufficient to save you from your sin, and satisfy your heart forever? That is the mark of God's child. He who has the Son has life (1 John 5:12). To has many as received him, to them God gave the right to be become the children of God (John 1:12). Receive him!
Back in the time before the American war for freedom man as a whole had Calvinist theology,. In the time of the reformers a ton of preachers were indeed Calvin like. The pilgrims were Calvinist and the churches first started this land and gave us freedoms we have in this land today. In fact the London confession was a baptist creed and they were of this to. The concept of freedom of choice was not a part of the church until the 1900s.
what I am about
Good morning to all you reading this blog. I am Shadman and I thought I would do something a but different and just take day and tell you more about me. I am 34 years old and I have cerebral palsy. I walk fine but I am not the best at cleaning my place. I work 2 jobs dish washing in MN. I like to read the bible as you know. I also love to ride bike. I ride my bike to get places and I do not have a car. I also take the bus all over my town. I am a advid sports fan. I love baseball and football the best then hockey and basketball. I like realty tv shows and I like the Simpson. I am a collector of music and John Macarthur tapes. I love soprano opera singers and the national anthem. I am known for my book and cd collection in which I have 500 hundred books and millions of cd music and tons of preaching tapes and cds. I go to a Baptist bible school and have been for 4 years presuming a bible one year degree. (And I am not a fan of it), I go to a good church and Love Jesus as you know. My mother was 16 when she had me and was a teen with no husband and she died when I was 5, I was in 5 different homes growing up. I lived in Kimball MN, Rochester MN, Princeton MN, Ham Lake MN and St Cloud MN. I also live 2 nights in Richfield MN and Pine City MN. The death of my mom was the hardest thing I had to endure in my life. I called Princeton where I grew up. My parents were good to me and we fought all the time. I had 2 girlfriends in my life. Leslie for 2 months and Natasha for 2 days. I became a christian in 1986 after a Billy Graham show. I credit my teacher in 9th grade for my taking Jesus and walking with him. I made a serious walk in 2001 with the help of a Ball player and a school and John Macarthur. I started a journal in 1987 and ended in 1990 and began bloging and writeing 3 years ago and maybe in 2001.
what I am about
Good morning to all you reading this blog. I am Shadman and I thought I would do something a but different and just take day and tell you more about me. I am 34 years old and I have cerebral palsy. I walk fine but I am not the best at cleaning my place. I work 2 jobs dish washing in MN. I like to read the bible as you know. I also love to ride bike. I ride my bike to get places and I do not have a car. I also take the bus all over my town. I am a advid sports fan. I love baseball and football the best then hockey and basketball. I like realty tv shows and I like the Simpson. I am a collector of music and John Macarthur tapes. I love soprano opera singers and the national anthem. I am known for my book and cd collection in which I have 500 hundred books and millions of cd music and tons of preaching tapes and cds. I go to a Baptist bible school and have been for 4 years presuming a bible one year degree. (And I am not a fan of it), I go to a good church and Love Jesus as you know. My mother was 16 when she had me and was a teen with no husband and she died when I was 5, I was in 5 different homes growing up. I lived in Kimball MN, Rochester MN, Princeton MN, Ham Lake MN and St Cloud MN. I also live 2 nights in Richfield MN and Pine City MN. The death of my mom was the hardest thing I had to endure in my life. I called Princeton where I grew up. My parents were good to me and we fought all the time. I had 2 girlfriends in my life. Leslie for 2 months and Natasha for 2 days. I became a christian in 1986 after a Billy Graham show. I credit my teacher in 9th grade for my taking Jesus and walking with him. I made a serious walk in 2001 with the help of a Ball player and a school and John Macarthur. I started a journal in 1987 and ended in 1990 and began bloging and writeing 3 years ago and maybe in 2001.
Friday, April 13, 2007
gods will is...
My I pod aint working and I am going to have to get a new I pod. I got the cash but I am not sure this is what the Lord wants? Now I am going to bust this Gods Will thing into a easy thing so people stop making it so hard. It is easy to know what Jesus wants you to do for him and yet books are written and things make it so hard for people on this one. Gods will is 5 things in life.
1 God will is for everyone to be saved.
1 Tim 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Get saved and do it today. Jesus died for you and if your not saved you are not in the will and plan of God for life and you never will be.
2 God wants you to be filled in the spirit. Jesus does this when you ask him to forgive your sins and be filled. It is a ongoing thing. It is like rebound. You sin you confess you for sake.
Eph 517 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 1
3 Gods will is the control of your body
3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, 2
You are to be a honor to the Lord and work on your santifcation. Be like Jesus in everything and your in the will of God
4 Gods will is that you submit to the government and be a good citizen.
1 peter 5 3 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme, 14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good. 15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men— 3
5 God wants you to be willing to suffer for Jesus.
1 peter 2 20 For what credit is it if, when you are beaten for your faults, you take it patiently? But when you do good and suffer, if you take it patiently, this is commendable before God4
6 is going to sound like I am way out there
6 do what you want to. Huh thats right If your doing the first 5 the God is going to give you the desires of your heart.
Psalms 37 4 4 Delight yourself also in the Lord,
And He shall give you the desires of your heart.5
If your walking in the spirit I trust him to guide you. If it is in the lords plans he is going to give them as you live for.
7 I need to say in the end God wants yourselves to thank and praise him
1 thes 5 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.6
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
3The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
4The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
5The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
6The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Labels: bible. Gods plans
Thursday, April 12, 2007
Healed but not saved
Psalms 138 2 1 I will praise You with my whole heart; Before the gods I will sing praises to You.
2 I will worship toward Your holy temple,
And praise Your name
For Your lovingkindness and Your truth;
For You have magnified Your word above all Your name.
He has his word above his name. God and Jesus are going to honor t5he word above the name of Jesus. Hey it is right here so I am going to say it until I am torn away. I always knew that was in the bible but not sure where to find it.
Back in the time of Jesus their were people that followed the law of God and made things up in that law so people would do things that God said not to and also what5 man said not to. God wanted the people to not work on the sabbath and worship him. I happen to be one that does not work on sunday and I am weak to the point where it is not right to. I do not really follow this because I go and eat out making others work so I am not all that big on it. But the Jews had made laws that were not right in Jesus eyes and our focus ought to be Jesus and the words he spoke. In the passage I think there are good things we can focus on and Jesus said things I need.
John 5 And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, “It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed.”
11 He answered them, “He who made me well said to me, ‘Take up your bed and walk.’ ”
12 Then they asked him, “Who is the Man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place.
Jesus told this man to get up and take his bed. Not right in mans eyes at that time but we look to the giver of the Law Jesus and Jesus made this ok. Note that they asked who done it and Jesus went and hid. If they got him I think they would of killed Jesus for this.
14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath.
1It seems that some times sin can cause us to get sick. If you sin you might get sick. David in the old testament had his bones waste away and that was illness caused by sin. If you commit sex outside of marige you can get aids. If you smoke you can die of bad lungs. But I also do not make that to mean all sickness is of sin. Jesus told this man if he did not stop sinning worse could happen top him. I think people can sin in ways and harm things in life they do not want to. If you drink to much your liver is going to be gone.
So did this man love Jesus. Nope he turns Jesus into the leaders and they nail Jesus for it. Jesus healed the man and this man was not thankful or kind at all. He turned on Jesus the first time he could. I am sure the man used Jesus and then did not heed the warning Jesus gave and might be in hell today. What a sad end to this mans day. Jesus had this man and the man ends up walking away and gives the leaders more stuff to kill Jesus on. May we learn to not fumble the things Jesus does for us into bad and nasty stuff.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
2 I will worship toward Your holy temple,
And praise Your name
For Your lovingkindness and Your truth;
For You have magnified Your word above all Your name.
He has his word above his name. God and Jesus are going to honor t5he word above the name of Jesus. Hey it is right here so I am going to say it until I am torn away. I always knew that was in the bible but not sure where to find it.
Back in the time of Jesus their were people that followed the law of God and made things up in that law so people would do things that God said not to and also what5 man said not to. God wanted the people to not work on the sabbath and worship him. I happen to be one that does not work on sunday and I am weak to the point where it is not right to. I do not really follow this because I go and eat out making others work so I am not all that big on it. But the Jews had made laws that were not right in Jesus eyes and our focus ought to be Jesus and the words he spoke. In the passage I think there are good things we can focus on and Jesus said things I need.
John 5 And that day was the Sabbath. 10 The Jews therefore said to him who was cured, “It is the Sabbath; it is not lawful for you to carry your bed.”
11 He answered them, “He who made me well said to me, ‘Take up your bed and walk.’ ”
12 Then they asked him, “Who is the Man who said to you, ‘Take up your bed and walk’?” 13 But the one who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, a multitude being in that place.
Jesus told this man to get up and take his bed. Not right in mans eyes at that time but we look to the giver of the Law Jesus and Jesus made this ok. Note that they asked who done it and Jesus went and hid. If they got him I think they would of killed Jesus for this.
14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”
15 The man departed and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews persecuted Jesus, and sought to kill Him, because He had done these things on the Sabbath.
1It seems that some times sin can cause us to get sick. If you sin you might get sick. David in the old testament had his bones waste away and that was illness caused by sin. If you commit sex outside of marige you can get aids. If you smoke you can die of bad lungs. But I also do not make that to mean all sickness is of sin. Jesus told this man if he did not stop sinning worse could happen top him. I think people can sin in ways and harm things in life they do not want to. If you drink to much your liver is going to be gone.
So did this man love Jesus. Nope he turns Jesus into the leaders and they nail Jesus for it. Jesus healed the man and this man was not thankful or kind at all. He turned on Jesus the first time he could. I am sure the man used Jesus and then did not heed the warning Jesus gave and might be in hell today. What a sad end to this mans day. Jesus had this man and the man ends up walking away and gives the leaders more stuff to kill Jesus on. May we learn to not fumble the things Jesus does for us into bad and nasty stuff.
1The New King James Version, (Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson Publishers) 1998, c1982.
Labels: hard to love jesus, John 5, warning
Wednesday, April 11, 2007
john 5
Hi fans of me. I like got some friends and fans. I got home from seeing the family and going to the Twins game this week. We played the Yankees and they were just so hard to win a game from. They are a bunch of all stars and I think they are good to beat whenever we can. We did get one out of 5 this week. I think the Twins are going to be fun to watch and going to be in the playoffs.
I guess the lent series went ok. I do not think I got into some of the places I wanted to. I am going to another one maybe in the fall on the false teaching of the calthlics but I got to get back to verse by verse study because I think that is what the Lord wants us to do with the bible. I do not think topics are good because it makes us not face the bible as a whole and I want to do that. Now if you read this and tell me that you do not like the way I am doing this then I ask you not to read this.
John 5 After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 2 Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches. 3 In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water.
(Some manuscripts do not have the last part of 3 and 4 in them. We have them and I am not sure how they are going to fit into the story.)
I do not like to make a point on the miracles of Jesus as I think they speak of the truth of Jesus being the Lord. So I am going to not make a sermon out of them. I more want to get into the minds of the people and see where that takes me. Now this pool was one where people are getting healed just by touching the water. Another thing worth pointing out is how John talks about the temple and this helps us date the whole book to before the time the temple was burned down in 70 ad. We place the date at 60 which is 30 years after Jesus lived and died well within the court of time making the book historic. I need to say that because some do not think the bible is history and that is not truth.
4 For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had. 5 Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years. 6 When Jesus saw him lying there, and knew that he already had been in that condition a long time, He said to him, “Do you want to be made well?”
7 The sick man answered Him, “Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up; but while I am coming, another steps down before me.”
Jesus asked him if he wanted to be well. I wonder why he asked this... Is Jesus making him choose and what would the man do if he did not want to be healed? I know Jesus already knew the mans reason is he wants to be healed and be filled and be whole. Do we ever get this asked in our faith? So Man do you want to be right with the Lord. Do you want the power Jesus has for you? Jesus then does not take him to the pool he goes and just heals.
8 Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
Jesus said to get up and be well and walk. The man did that and is healed. But the end of this story which I am going to next time might be part of the end of Jesus and a reason the cross happens. It leads to tons of things Jesus is going to say to the people that is going to want the people hate him and many today take parts of the next few chapters and hate Jesus because of what he said.
Got to tune in to see the end
I guess the lent series went ok. I do not think I got into some of the places I wanted to. I am going to another one maybe in the fall on the false teaching of the calthlics but I got to get back to verse by verse study because I think that is what the Lord wants us to do with the bible. I do not think topics are good because it makes us not face the bible as a whole and I want to do that. Now if you read this and tell me that you do not like the way I am doing this then I ask you not to read this.
John 5 After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 2 Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches. 3 In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water.
(Some manuscripts do not have the last part of 3 and 4 in them. We have them and I am not sure how they are going to fit into the story.)
I do not like to make a point on the miracles of Jesus as I think they speak of the truth of Jesus being the Lord. So I am going to not make a sermon out of them. I more want to get into the minds of the people and see where that takes me. Now this pool was one where people are getting healed just by touching the water. Another thing worth pointing out is how John talks about the temple and this helps us date the whole book to before the time the temple was burned down in 70 ad. We place the date at 60 which is 30 years after Jesus lived and died well within the court of time making the book historic. I need to say that because some do not think the bible is history and that is not truth.
4 For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had. 5 Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years. 6 When Jesus saw him lying there, and knew that he already had been in that condition a long time, He said to him, “Do you want to be made well?”
7 The sick man answered Him, “Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up; but while I am coming, another steps down before me.”
Jesus asked him if he wanted to be well. I wonder why he asked this... Is Jesus making him choose and what would the man do if he did not want to be healed? I know Jesus already knew the mans reason is he wants to be healed and be filled and be whole. Do we ever get this asked in our faith? So Man do you want to be right with the Lord. Do you want the power Jesus has for you? Jesus then does not take him to the pool he goes and just heals.
8 Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” 9 And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked.
Jesus said to get up and be well and walk. The man did that and is healed. But the end of this story which I am going to next time might be part of the end of Jesus and a reason the cross happens. It leads to tons of things Jesus is going to say to the people that is going to want the people hate him and many today take parts of the next few chapters and hate Jesus because of what he said.
Got to tune in to see the end
Sunday, April 08, 2007
CNN is not the truth at all on Jesus
I had a talk about the bible with a fsmily member. I need to write out the lies he thinks he has right with the truth and facts
1 Bible is not writen by people who have seen Jesus. No the fact is the bible is writen by people who saw the Lord in his after death state. Matthew was a apostle and saw it all, Mark was friend of Peter who walked with Jesus after the death and Peter saw Jesus alive and on the place of glory. Peter died for the faith to. Mark is really peters gospel. Luke was a doctor who Paul helped write the gospel. John penned the John and revalations with no help. Acts is a history of the early vchurch penned by Luke. Dates of the books are within Mark was in 50 ad and places it within 20 years of the Life of Jesus. Mark in 63 ad, luke who did interveiws and had Paul as a eyewitness. Luke was done in 63 ad and John in 70 ad.
Many of the books Paul wrote were before the fall of rome in ad 70 and he saw Jesus alive in 40. SO the books of the New part of the bible were pened and most were accepted by 90 ad. CNN does not know anything about the bible and is anti Jesus and of course is not going to tell you the truth.
Calthlics have books in their bible that the trrue faith does not accept because none of the authors are who they say that they are. Fact is they do not honor Jesus and the authors put junk in the books and at the time the church picked the bible the bible as 66 books were the ones placed in the cannon. To say the least if the books are not in the 66 book bible the books are not vaild as Gods word. If you want the truth read the books by valid evangelicals and do not watch cnn who is anti Jesus and pro rome. Watch them for news and only for current at that. I do not trust anything they say now that they called the bible bad and not true. Anderson cooper is a lib working for the democraps and so is Zaun. Cnn is anti american and anti Jesus.Cooper went to Yale a place that tells you that earth is made from a explotion and Jesus is a goodman who taughtr good things. Jesus was not a good mad or good teacher he is the Lord of this planet and God in the flesh and what Anderson Cooper does with Jesus as what you do will send you to hell or heaven. We can and most reject him making your home hell forever and few accept him and his free offer of salvation by HIS work FOR YOU in dieing on a cross 2000 years ago for your sin. Die without making Jesus alone your sin bearing life giving and God loving way Heaven is going to be nothing for you. Accept his free offer and see Jesus as King for you and your going to live with Jesus forevere in heaven loving him and all the saints (ones who gave Jesus their lives NOT some folk who the pope makes them to be) in heaven forever. So trrrust in Cnn and their gospel or go to a church who is bible centered and Grace alone by faith alone in Jesus alone and get the truth..
I am chooseing to go to the bible ALONE
shad
1 Bible is not writen by people who have seen Jesus. No the fact is the bible is writen by people who saw the Lord in his after death state. Matthew was a apostle and saw it all, Mark was friend of Peter who walked with Jesus after the death and Peter saw Jesus alive and on the place of glory. Peter died for the faith to. Mark is really peters gospel. Luke was a doctor who Paul helped write the gospel. John penned the John and revalations with no help. Acts is a history of the early vchurch penned by Luke. Dates of the books are within Mark was in 50 ad and places it within 20 years of the Life of Jesus. Mark in 63 ad, luke who did interveiws and had Paul as a eyewitness. Luke was done in 63 ad and John in 70 ad.
Many of the books Paul wrote were before the fall of rome in ad 70 and he saw Jesus alive in 40. SO the books of the New part of the bible were pened and most were accepted by 90 ad. CNN does not know anything about the bible and is anti Jesus and of course is not going to tell you the truth.
Calthlics have books in their bible that the trrue faith does not accept because none of the authors are who they say that they are. Fact is they do not honor Jesus and the authors put junk in the books and at the time the church picked the bible the bible as 66 books were the ones placed in the cannon. To say the least if the books are not in the 66 book bible the books are not vaild as Gods word. If you want the truth read the books by valid evangelicals and do not watch cnn who is anti Jesus and pro rome. Watch them for news and only for current at that. I do not trust anything they say now that they called the bible bad and not true. Anderson cooper is a lib working for the democraps and so is Zaun. Cnn is anti american and anti Jesus.Cooper went to Yale a place that tells you that earth is made from a explotion and Jesus is a goodman who taughtr good things. Jesus was not a good mad or good teacher he is the Lord of this planet and God in the flesh and what Anderson Cooper does with Jesus as what you do will send you to hell or heaven. We can and most reject him making your home hell forever and few accept him and his free offer of salvation by HIS work FOR YOU in dieing on a cross 2000 years ago for your sin. Die without making Jesus alone your sin bearing life giving and God loving way Heaven is going to be nothing for you. Accept his free offer and see Jesus as King for you and your going to live with Jesus forevere in heaven loving him and all the saints (ones who gave Jesus their lives NOT some folk who the pope makes them to be) in heaven forever. So trrrust in Cnn and their gospel or go to a church who is bible centered and Grace alone by faith alone in Jesus alone and get the truth..
I am chooseing to go to the bible ALONE
shad
Labels: BIBLE, current event
