Friday, May 25, 2007
John 6 more on calvin
In bible study there is rules you have to follow to get to the right meaning. I maintain the bible is clear about Gods selects the people that he saves and I am a calvinist. I look at tonights passage and think it is clear if you read this and not mess it up and make it say something it does not say. I know mabny people are not Calvinist and I guess thats your fault. I am sure God is this way and I have talked much about this in the lent season this year. I am going to give you the passage and where and how I see the Sovern God in it.
John 6 28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Ok to be saved you have to believe in Jesus and the God who sent them. Faith does not come to you unless God gives it to you. It is a gift and a free gift. I do not think one has the power to ask Jesus to save without the Lord removeing the blinders off. (1 Cor 2 14) Said the devil blinds everyone to the truth and in sin your not willing to come to Jesus. God has to grant you faith or your not going to get saved.
Also here is a clear verse that tells us that faith alone is salvation. Jesus never gives another work to get us saved. Not work can ever save a flee and if your working on your salvation rest in the faith Jesus and God gave you.
30 Therefore they said to Him, “What sign will You perform then, that we may see it and believe You? What work will You do? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
32 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
God gave the bread to the people in the desert and Jesus is now the bread. Jesus is the one that you need to keep coming to or you die in your walk. I think you need the bible and prayer EVERYDAY. No the bible is not Jesus but that is the best way to know Jesus is to read what he said to you. Bible reading is not all you need. We need to talk out our day with the Lord, confessing all our sins, asking him for our bread and thank him for all he does. I fail to ask for bread daily but in our walk we need to know all provision is a gift from the Lord. God gets so overloo0ked in daily provision in life. We think we got our jobs on our own and we did not it was all God.
34 Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.”
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”1
Here is the stuff people are not going to like. 37 said all that the father gave to me I will not cast out. First this is the saved of all the ages. It is the ones God choose and not thwe one he did not chose. We are to share the gospel but the results are all left to Jesus because he does all the saving. It this meaning some are not picked. Yes it means the ones God did not save have to pay for the sins they do. Jesus wants to save all but 38 said he only does Gods plan. I do not want hell for anyone but hell is given to people who are not saved. If one does not believe this is one God does not pick. Jesus is the one that died for the saved not the ones that do not come to0 him.
This is also proof once Jesus saved you it lasts forever and your not going to lose it. If God picks you and you believe heaven is yours no matter what. If your saved life is yours and it starts at salvation and never ends. Now do not go to heberews 6 and lose this. That is another night. It goes to say the way salvation works. A friend said the other day you got to hold on to Jesus and I said Jesus holds on to you. If your saved your going to live for Jesus because he is the one in you. Now if your not living for the Lord I urge you to work it out with Jesus. If you said a prayer or walked forward at a crusade or church does not make you saved, a changed life and making Jesus Lord is what needs to happen. Going to church, bible class, or walking a lady across the street makes you nothing it is a life that Jesus is Lord of and your walking toward the Lord Jesus and not away. If your not reading the bible everyday and claim salvation I wonder and I think you need to check it out.
Shadman
John 6 28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Ok to be saved you have to believe in Jesus and the God who sent them. Faith does not come to you unless God gives it to you. It is a gift and a free gift. I do not think one has the power to ask Jesus to save without the Lord removeing the blinders off. (1 Cor 2 14) Said the devil blinds everyone to the truth and in sin your not willing to come to Jesus. God has to grant you faith or your not going to get saved.
Also here is a clear verse that tells us that faith alone is salvation. Jesus never gives another work to get us saved. Not work can ever save a flee and if your working on your salvation rest in the faith Jesus and God gave you.
30 Therefore they said to Him, “What sign will You perform then, that we may see it and believe You? What work will You do? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
32 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
God gave the bread to the people in the desert and Jesus is now the bread. Jesus is the one that you need to keep coming to or you die in your walk. I think you need the bible and prayer EVERYDAY. No the bible is not Jesus but that is the best way to know Jesus is to read what he said to you. Bible reading is not all you need. We need to talk out our day with the Lord, confessing all our sins, asking him for our bread and thank him for all he does. I fail to ask for bread daily but in our walk we need to know all provision is a gift from the Lord. God gets so overloo0ked in daily provision in life. We think we got our jobs on our own and we did not it was all God.
34 Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.”
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”1
Here is the stuff people are not going to like. 37 said all that the father gave to me I will not cast out. First this is the saved of all the ages. It is the ones God choose and not thwe one he did not chose. We are to share the gospel but the results are all left to Jesus because he does all the saving. It this meaning some are not picked. Yes it means the ones God did not save have to pay for the sins they do. Jesus wants to save all but 38 said he only does Gods plan. I do not want hell for anyone but hell is given to people who are not saved. If one does not believe this is one God does not pick. Jesus is the one that died for the saved not the ones that do not come to0 him.
This is also proof once Jesus saved you it lasts forever and your not going to lose it. If God picks you and you believe heaven is yours no matter what. If your saved life is yours and it starts at salvation and never ends. Now do not go to heberews 6 and lose this. That is another night. It goes to say the way salvation works. A friend said the other day you got to hold on to Jesus and I said Jesus holds on to you. If your saved your going to live for Jesus because he is the one in you. Now if your not living for the Lord I urge you to work it out with Jesus. If you said a prayer or walked forward at a crusade or church does not make you saved, a changed life and making Jesus Lord is what needs to happen. Going to church, bible class, or walking a lady across the street makes you nothing it is a life that Jesus is Lord of and your walking toward the Lord Jesus and not away. If your not reading the bible everyday and claim salvation I wonder and I think you need to check it out.
Shadman
